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Comment on Week in review by barn E. Rubble

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RE: rls | November 23, 2014 at 10:00 pm |
Jim2
” . . . There’s probably a description of the malady in the psychology books.”

Paging Dr. Lewandowsky . . .


Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Matthew R Marler

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R. Gates: More likely the boom in fracking will become the inevitable bust as prices fall to below economically viable levels. OPEC is wise to take short term pain to drive prices lower.

Assuming that it turns out to be “short term”, fracking will resume when the short term is over”.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Ed Martin

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Happy Thanksgiving!
About hiding the truth…
I’ve decided to try manufacturing axes… Calling them the ‘ laissez-faire apocalypse ‘

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by John Smith (it's my real name)

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Cap
thanks for that answer
wow… so the anomalies look somehow more extreme?
so that up tic around 2000 is actually in the data above?
I have a tough time seeing it
this subject gets curiouser and curiouser

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by DocMartyn

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In 2012 the Islamic Republic of Iran earned $117 billion from hydrocarbon sales. In 2013 it was $83 billion and this year will be less than $50 billion. Less income for the IRI means less terrorism and less money spent on nuclear weapons development.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Max_OK, Citizen Scientist

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jim2, I hope I’m wrong, but the secondary recovery techniques you mention may be expensive relative to returns, and if so, wouldn’t be undertaken if the price of oil is too low to justify the expense. You didn’t mention drilling a second well. If the first well in a spacing unit isn’t recovering the oil and gas efficiently, another well could be drilled, regulations permitting, but that also could be relatively expensive.

Production from fraced wells in my area declines very rapidly in the first few years, and I doubt the decline differs much elsewhere. Unfortunately, after about about four years, production may be only a fraction (typically about one-quarter) of what it was the first year. It can then can remain at that level for a long time, 20 years or 30 years, and hopefully even longer.

Looking back at oil prices, I probably should have sold my mineral rights 6 months ago. Oh well, as someone once said, “No matter what you do, your capital will be at risk”

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by jim2

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Drilling the well is the most expensive part of the process. You are correct that the price of oil will determine what is feasible. IMO, IMHO, it is probably good you still have your mineral rights.

As to the companies, the blood bath today didn’t take into account natural gas production – which will be unaffected by OPEC – and hedging which some of “my” companies do.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Steven Mosher

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thanks willard for posting this on open thread


Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Steven Mosher

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cool where are the blog posts so I can preserve them prior to take down

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Rob Ellison

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I have given up on this. There are two trivial thought bubbles raised by FOMBS – and defended by P-N at great length and with extreme verbiage.

One is the box of air on the moon with a pinhole leak – in which average kinetic energy as molecules rise is always the same. This was somehow a verbal demonstration that the gravito-thermal effect didn’t exist. We have not of course got anywhere near a proof of the trivial and irrelevant thought bubble – and it does of course imply nothing of the kind. Average kinetic energy in the real atmosphere is not remotely constant – hence a trivial and irrelevant thought bubble.

The other was the symplectic manifold of the Hamiltonian – raised by FOMBS as a context less posturing about something or other.

The paper I linked to evolves a Hamiltonian for the atmosphere that suggests that indeed a gravito-thermal effect exists. I made no claim about the paper – other than that it was interesting and it suggested and actual experiment.

The continued misrepresentation of this by P-N is part a pattern of bad faith that grows old very quickly.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Jim D

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Actually Betts and Edwards weren’t quite right when they said Ball was “drawing parallels between climate scientists and Hitler”. His quote was from Hitler accusing his opponents of the ‘big lie’. so if anything he is drawing the parallel between himself and Hitler in the type of accusation he is throwing at climate scientists. Just a quibble.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by JCH

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Today was not a blood bath. A blood bath is when all your friends are finished in the oil business. In the months after a blood bath, you see them working at 7-11, and it will be for the rest of their working careers; you see the front doors of their houses swinging in the wind because nobody is buying. That’s an oil-patch blood bath.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Pekka Pirilä

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Temperature is not a measure of only kinetic energy.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by JCH

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Examples of socialized medicine in the United States:

The Indian Health Service; Veterans Health Administration; Medicare; Medicaid

Example of a capitalist medicine in the United States:

ObamaSCARE

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Steven Mosher

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Willard Fibbs again. he has no honor.

“Willard | November 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm | Reply
A squirrel in an open thread. Fancy that.

Steven Mosher | November 15, 2014 at 5:58 pm | Reply
the king climate baller redefines week in review as open thread.

You will know its an open thread when it says “open thread”

or make up your own damn rules. you have no honor

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Basically Willard on the Nov 15 week in review thread you treated it as an Open thread. when called out you then you tried some historical revisionism. Then you tried to excuse your bad behavior by appealing that others did it first.

I explained to you that you would know its an open thread when it says “open thread.”

Now comes an open thread.

not post hoc analysis, fibber willard.

See, when a smart guy cant admit he was wrong about something as simple as posting off topic.. well then you cant really give him the benefit of the doubt. And one need not interpret his words charitably. cause he has no honor


Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Max_OK, Citizen Scientist

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jim2, good point about natural gas. And since wells usually produce both gas and oil, a decline in drilling resulting from lower oil prices would put a damper on increases in the supply of gas as well as oil.

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Rob Ellison

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by willard (@nevaudit)

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> Then you tried to excuse your bad behavior by appealing that others did it first.

Spot the ClimateBall ™ move.

Begging the question.

Yup.

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> I explained to you that you would know its an open thread when it says “open thread.”

Spot the ClimateBall ™ move.

Reversing the burden of proof.

Yup.

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Judy always treated her weekly reviews as open threads. Denizens always treated her weekly reviews as open threads. As far as I can recall, I always posted links that where relevant for the week at hand by limiting my search to the last week.

When Judy will declare that her week reviews are not open thread will they not be. She even has the power to declare threads about the “state of the blog” an open thread. Only when Judy dubs Moshpit her new white knight will be able to play King of the hill in a plausible manner.

Also note the

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Steven Mosher

Comment on Open thread: Thanksgiving edition by Steven Mosher

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Open threads are a free for all. well, in some universe they are.

In general it’s a successful policy to have an open unmoderated thread.
a mosh pit if you like those sorts of things.

I dont know why Judith wants to moderate an open thread. she can of course.

Ideally if you found someone out of line or off topic on a themed thread, then you just tell them to get a room and move their discussion/fight/bromance to Open thread.

basically this would mean you never delete anything or snip anything you just move it to Open. Apply the least force required when it comes to deleting or removing peoples words.

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