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Comment on Climate change as a political process by kim

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The Gore Effect is Dead, Long Live the Obama Effect.
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Comment on Climate change as a political process by A. Voip

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Cause and it’s affects.

“Many restaurants were looking forward to Winter Storm Juno, because people typically order more food when they’re hunkering down. According to NBC New York, the Natureworks Restaurant location on 31st got more GrubHub and Seamless orders during the polar vortex in January 2014 than any other restaurant in the city. So understandably, the restaurant doubled the delivery staff that was scheduled to work yesterday.

But instead, the restaurant ended up closing at 7pm. When asked why, manager Carlos Arcos told NBC New York, “Right now my delivery guy was walking.”

Needless to say, the same city that binge-shopped for kale in preparation for the storm wasn’t happy that it couldn’t get its pad thai and dan dan noodles.

NYC is really dropping the ball-Only 3 restaurants come up on @Seamless for delivery right now. And they’re terrible.”

Comment on Climate change as a political process by bob droege

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Fukishima was caused by an earthquake and subsequent tsunami, however TEPCO did not learn the lessons the US industry learned from TMI.

The lack of hydrogen recombiners and the failure to adequately protect their diesel generators were the proximate cause of the disaster.

A reactor core isolation cooling turbine would certainly helped as well. This is a turbine that uses steam from the reactor to drive a pump that provides cooling water to the reactor.

If the regulatory impediments are the requirements to have the above mentioned safety equipment installed inspected and operated properly, and I think they are, then I can not support expanded nuclear power without them.

Raise the beta and gamma exposure limits if you will, but it is still necessary to keep alpha exposure to zero, or as close to it as possible.

The government should build them and auction them to the utitities after their first refueling outage.

That would remove the largest impediment, which is the long term lack of return on an investment.

Back in the day, that nearly sunk every company that built nuclear power plants, and some made a lot of cash. I doubled my 401K going all in on one company’s stock.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Stephen Segrest

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A recent national poll reflects that 56% of Republicans support regulating GHG emissions:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/27/us-usa-politics-climatechange-insight-idUSKBN0L00D620150127

Another national poll shows that there is only one national issue that President Obama has a clear advantage on: The Environment http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/13/obama-vs-the-republicans-on-environmental-issues-how-the-public-views-them/

Another poll reflects a vast difference between Tea Party and Traditional Republicans (RINOs) on Science:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/12/02/tea-partiers-and-traditional-republicans-are-split-on-science/

Comment on Week in review by AK

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<blockquote>It takes about 10 years to build an electricity power generation plant.</blockquote>Actually, lead times for CCGT are <a href="https://www.aep.com/about/IssuesAndPositions/Generation/Technologies/NaturalGas.aspx" rel="nofollow">around 3 years.</a> Shorter for open cycle.<blockquote>Natural gas generating plants are constructed much more quickly than coal fired generation. Simple cycle plants are typically constructed in 18 to 30 months and combined cycle plants are constructed in about 36 months. These lead times are significantly less than the average for solid fuel plants (i.e. coal plants), about 72 months. </blockquote><b>If</b> the permitting time can be eliminated.

Comment on Planetary boundaries, tipping points and prophets of doom by nickels

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“I think that the keys here are “within limits” and the allegorical nature of “breakneck” speeds.”

If climate models were to move into the modern age of finite elements and adjoint solutions very likely the abrupt transitions would be detectable by the ‘stability factors’ going wonky around the transition (at which time a modern solver would get very serious, adapt and step through this treacherous territory very carefully –and still maybe get it wrong–).

But wishes are horses and fortran is spaghetti.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by tonyb

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Peter

Gadzooks! If we changed to driving on the right it would prevent us from so readily drawing our swords with our right hands.

Fortunately there is no truth whatsoever in the rumours. Anyway, we are already too busy fighting the imaginary dragons of overpowering climate change to have enough time for policy experiments.

tonyb


Comment on Climate change as a political process by Don Monfort

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Gary and brandy sittin’ in a tree attempting humor in harmony. You two sourpusses ain’t got half a sense of humor between you.

Gary, you poor thing. You actually thought that I was being serious, when I said that Mosher should present his list.

“For Mosher to “point it out,” wouldn’t it have had to have actually happened?”

Yes Gary, everybody knows that. Even I know that the Republicans cleaned up. I worked on several campaigns. I actually put my money and my mouth, where my mouth is. Talking on a blog isn’t effective action.

Mosher says:

“I’m just pointing out the fact that talking on a blog isn’t effective action
Having an opinion doesn’t trump power.”

That’s a defensible utterance.

“Republicans fought the science and the science won”

That one needs some elaboration and justification. That’s why I tweaked Steven with my comment on the recent elections. But that’s over your head. You are distracted by your hunt for the progressives hiding under every bed. And maybe you are not very bright. Certainly not as bright as your buddy Brandon.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by curryja

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Post on this topic coming later today

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Don Monfort

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Oh, I see Tom. When you say “Assuming that each power plant we built cost that amount, the total cost would be 23.07 trillion USD.” You are thinking that all those nuclear power plants are going to be built in China, cause that’s where all the power will be consumed. Moso is correct you are just extrapolating naively, from now to 2075. China’s economy is not going to keep growing the way you think it is. Can you say capital investment bubble, Tom? You are making naive assumption on top of purely speculative assumption. That’s not how you do this kind of analysis in the real world, Tom. Study up on capital budgeting, managerial finance, microeconomics, business research methods, cost accounting, from a quick glance at my bookcase.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by A. Voip

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Willard

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> That one needs some elaboration and justification.

One word suffices. Demographics:

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Joseph

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Rob, it’s my understanding that under the current regime, the international community will loan money to the poorest nations to help pay for coal fired power plants when the alternatives are too expensive. I think they should continue to do that.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Stephen Segrest

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If we apply your logic to a Cat 5 Katina hurricane (where it can take days to evacuate) what do we have?


Comment on Climate change as a political process by Joseph

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<blockquote>Blizzard of 2015 for New York City is a political teaching moment.</blockquote> We saw with Katrina how not being proactive led to a much worse disaster than it could have been.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Rob Starkey

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Joseph

“It comes down to the specifics. What nation, how much more money, how much less CO2. Specifics matter in determination of good vs wasteful plans.”

In some instances the cost to produce and distribute electricity in a developing region is greatly increased due to the corruption in the area/nation. In others the use of the funds are better put to use in some other area.

The specifics determine whether a plan is good or folly.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Joseph

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The specifics determine whether a plan is good or folly.

It’s encouraging to me that you are willing to consider a plan.

Comment on Week in review by captdallas2 0.8 +/- 0.2

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Pekka said, “It seems much more likely that the 100 ky cycle is related to dynamic behavior of Earth itself than that it has much connection to the eccentricity cycle. ”

Well yeah, you don’t really expect it to be easy do ya?

What most folks seem to forget is that at the Equator the precessional cycle is rectified producing an ~10ka +/- 2ka frequency and that imbalanced ice mass tends to change the +/- 2ka part. So glacial cycle can synch with either the 100ka +/- 15ka or some eccentricity or the 41ka +/- 4ka obiliquity. You really could have 100ka +/-, 41ka +/- or 21ka +/- glacial cycling. Since you have a “predictable” to reasonable accuracy “chaotic” input and a not so predictable “chaotic” response, you have a variety of preferred cycle frequencies.

Considering all the possibilities, Milankovitch’s theory is much better than most.; It can always use a little tweaking, but there seems to be much ado about diddly when folks start dissing Milankovitch when they are pretty much clueless.

That is the difference between the Peak insolation, rectified and the June insolation that just shows part of the picture. Tropical SST btw would be clipped by negative cloud feedback, limiting SST.

Comment on Climate change as a political process by Don Monfort

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Ted Cruz is not going to be the next President. Unless the economy takes a dive, it will be Hillary. The Demo brand is getting repaired by lowering gas prices and the perception that the economy is improving. Obama’s gallup poll approval rating has risen to 50%. Hillary basks in the Clinton economy, which was booming due to no help from the Clinton’s socialistic yearnings. If Clinton had not been restrained by Republican Congressional opposition, Hillarycare and other shenanigans would have doomed him to one term. But now Hill very likely gets to be President. Blind luck, and it’s a woman’s turn.

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