“…funding should be directed at improving weather forecasting…”
How about zero funding and let the consumers of the predictions pick the winner?
Public funding attracts, you know, people looking for public funding, via political connections and other nefarious means, where future funding is not determined by past results.
Public officials in New Jersey and in New York made the right call. There was enough of a probability of severe snowfall in the areas of those two states that were most vulnerable to that kind of weather to justify the actions that were taken. This is so even if we apply 20/20 hindsight as the standard of performance being applied.
Yeah, and I guess you have forgotten how your idol treated General Mattis.
And he found out he was being cashiered from the media.
as self-appointed
Despot Philosopher King
I hereby decree, from here on until the end of Western civilization
all non-Camelot weather
shall be attributed to “Climate Change”
go forth and adjust to not prospering
thank you
Jim D,
Responding to two posts in one.
Re: warming prior to 1998. If underestimated, then was it due to the effects of the Clean Air Act and the aerosols emissions reductions? Not aware of a study that’s accounted for the US’s contribution “globally” from prior to this time, and this has been a question in my mind regarding Hansen’s earlier work. And was that warming natural/anthro. And attribution %’s.
Then this: “The hiatus is not an issue because the ocean heat content was increasing consistently with the forcing change. Pauses are expected in the warming record because of natural variation that can add to or subtract from decadal climate change because that is only tenths of a degree. There was a major natural warming that culminated in 1998, that is not often mentioned, but it subsided in what has become known as the pause.”
Could it be the “pause/hiatus” is partially as a result of the increasing CO2 not allowing solar to reach the surface? The solar heat energy thru my single pane window is discernable on both sides. Thickness affects the interior results.
Formulated thoughts (and modification invited).
Solar radiation should be monitored TOA to surface.
CO2’s greenhouse effects should reradiate in all directions.
Land based ice index.
Aerosols index.
Albedo index.
Water vapor increases as a result of warmer waters, creating healing effects (more snow –> more ice).
Water vapor index. (More veg. sequesters water vapor)
CO2 index (starting point as I see it is 280 ppm) attribution needed for understanding.
Ocean temps. index.
Biomass index.
TOA index. Is TOA “static”?
All needed as inputs to model climate reasonably, and to attribute anthro. must be based on a time prior to the industrial age. Then, to attribute to CO2 must not all the other variables be eliminated as to cause? Sounds chaotic. What have I missed?
Finally, “This was a natural variation in the same direction as the background warming.” Background warming? And how is it defined that prior the 1998 the “major warming was natural” when CO2 emissions had been increasing for years prior?
==> “Similarly, will scientists be believed anymore after decades of failed predictions regarding overpopulation, global crop failures, global cooling, global warming, etc.? ”
I would think that scientists who are experienced in examining cause and effect would look at available data to help inform their hypotheses, and to control for their own biases?
me too! But putting off your homework on account of the weather report was risky! Apparently it still is!
KenW,
Interesting. As a neophyte to this topic, it’s what I see re: the climate discussion. Variables in weather, variables in climate, variables in perceptions, and variables in associated politics. Gonna go eat some spaghetti.
Perhaps someone above has mentioned this but the blizzard of 1888 was far worse. The mayor and guv need to study their history. http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_Blizzard_of_1888%3B_the_Impact_of_this_Devastating_Storm_on_New_York_Transit
Jim2,
I call dibs on the playing card franchise!
Dr. Curry,
A bit late to the thread but…
I am reminded of another Senate vote in 1997.
The Byrd-Hagel resolution said in part:
“Declares that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol to, or other agreement regarding, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change of 1992, at negotiations in Kyoto in December 1997 or thereafter which would: (1) mandate new commitments to limit or reduce greenhouse gas emissions for the Annex 1 Parties, unless the protocol or other agreement also mandates new specific scheduled commitments to limit or reduce greenhouse gas emissions for Developing Country Parties within the same compliance period; or (2) result in serious harm to the U.S. economy.”
This was passed 95 to 0 with 5 abstaining. 53 Republicans and 42 Democrats.
“It seems that nothing feels quite so good for people as to find someone to blame for something.”
Quite so Joshua. In fact it doesn’t even have to be ‘someone’, it can also be something…. like the ubiquitous excuse that if all hell breaks loose with the storm of the day we can just blame climate change as a necessary new factor that makes things more out of control than before (so don’t blame me on how I do my job)…. with the obligatory caveat that of course no one storm can be shown to be specifically caused by climate change… ahem. Cuomo certainly loves this tactic and never misses a chance to use it. IMO he does a disservice to the cause when CC gets tagged along with every natural occurring extreme weather event because when it doesn’t end up being extreme, eyeballs start rolling back in a few heads.
I live in CT and it was ho hum. meh… I missed work. My daughter lives in SOHO, she missed school that she walks to anyway, she was upset because the new term starts this week and had to delay first classes. Good girl.
There was a book from the argentinian writer Martín Caparrós titled: “Contra el cambio” (“Against change”, it was an irreverent way to deal with the omnipresency of climate change instead of dealing with more specific and real problems of the suffering and pover humanity. I don’t think it has been translated into English.
Yes, gotta do the HW. Btw, I think it was sometime between 1966-68 school was cancelled due to snow for almost the whole month of Feb. It was awesome!
“…we…will see more…” BS from the MSM to get more “eyes” and ad revenue. Apocalypse sells!
Approve the Keystone XL pipeline, and let the market decide whether or when to build it. No goal is achieved by continuing to hold it up now that it has been extensively reviewed.
Jim D: Barbara Boxer’s opinion of the Keystone “debate”.
It isn’t like she is unbiased, or has been a tireless advocate for the rights of the minority party in the Senate.
Boxer believes it’s a good thing that the only sector of the CA that is growing is the subsidized renewable energy sector. She thinks that is an argument in favor of increasing the subsidies.
Besides, the Keystone XL pipeline has been debated for years.
Free market can do it!
