I think you can tell by the content David. Bose-Einstein boson statistics keeps is amusing me lately. The comment I link to above uses a novel concept of statistical mechanics – instead of a far more obvious role for absorption and reemissions of IR photons. I don’t mind people being wrong – after all if being wrong were a hanging offence…well. It is being so emotionally committed to a position that it is defended with copious arm waving and gutter level brawling. They just keep coming back with it relentlessly. Back to the battle of meaningless drivel passing back and forth. I am more than a little bored with it.
Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by Captain Kangaroo
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by thisisnotgoodtogo
“My wife, a biologist, once asked a friend who was a mathematician how to calculate the area of a cell membrane from some electron microscope data she had.’
Dave, might this work ? How about enlarging the photo, printing it on waterproof paper, cutting the image out by laser, repeat a hundred times, then sink the bundle of images in water and the volume displaced will tell you the area ?
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by WebHubTelescope
Robert May is discussing the issue of adjustment time versus residence time of CO2 concentrations. A short residence time is likely but the adjustment time is very long. Dyson didn’t discriminate between the two and assumed it was residence time that was important. Thus, May had to write that comment to straighten him out.
As May suggests, that if Dyson was under the impression that a short adjustment time is operable as well, then it is clear how he became a skeptic. As so would I, but I have since learned the slow diffusional aspects of sequestering. Dyson thought that biota was semi-permanent but on the adjustment time scale it is still transitory, as the biota will decay within that period.
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Comment on Authority(?) in political debates involving science by WebHubTelescope
There is an interesting physics newsfeed/blog called http://physorg.com, which Oliver kept on spamming with his nutso ideas. As of late last year, he disappeared because apparently he couldn’t take the relentless mocking by the physics crowd that wanted nothing to do with him. A team of guys kept on bringing up his troubles, and that’s that.
Notice that this is not an authoritarian approach but rather a case of ordinary nerds using the mock and needle instruments of destruction. Some call it uncivilized, whereas I find it effective. Lots of people are fans of Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert and think they do a pretty good job at marginalizing people that need to be marginalized. I heard that Ben Franklin used to do this as well with mocking letters to the editor.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
What is “…privatizing the carbon cycle” ??
What is it??
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
Can Nordhaus or anyone, anyone, else propose a do-able means to ban fire and combustion world wide?
Absent that, all else is word play and number play.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
“I coudda beena contenda!”
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Comment on Aerosols and Atlantic aberrations by climatereason
R Gates said;
‘In general though, I think the evidence is getting stronger and more persuasive that aerosols have played a big role in driving the AMO (both natural and anthropogenic), and that especially the role of volcanic aerosols is proving to be very strong in determining what goes on in the North Atlantic.’
We took Mosh for task for saying that sort of thing without cites, althoiugh to be fair he used the words ‘substantial evidence’. It was the ‘substantial’ that irritated us. 
I agree that volcanic eruptions are important, but how important we still don’t know. Would earthquakes have an effect to a greater or lesser degree and also natural fires? We get several accounts of enormous fires underground and overground. I’ve not seen much research on these aspects.
Reading through the various English contemporary observations for The Long Slow thaw I was struck by the number of times that earthquakes and auro borealis were mentioned. As you know we are not at all earthquake prone and rarely see the Northern Lights.
tonyb
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
They coudda beena contenda’s
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Comment on Aerosols and Atlantic aberrations by climatereason
Handjive
Thanks for those references. I will look up the paper you cite. We have some good records of that general period and area. I wrote about some of them here.
“The rise of Rome coincided with the warm Roman optimum. We are fortunate that we have available the climate references from not only the Western Roman empire, but those of the Byzantine empire (the Eastern Roman empire after the collapse of Rome) approx 380-1453 AD.
Collectively, the Egyptian, Roman and Byzantine empires can provide records of some 4000 years of climate change. Geographically this covers a large part of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa. Knowledge of the Vikings enables us to extend that geographic range far to the North. Studies from elsewhere in the world-including the Southern Hemisphere-provide tantalising glimpses of climate change elsewhere.
Some of the Roman climate references are fascinating. This observation from a series of cold winters -after many warm ones- around the 8th century in Byzantium (centred around Modern day Turkey)
“Theophanes’ account recalls how, as a child, the author (or his source’s author) went out on the ice with thirty other children and played on it and that some of his pets and other animals died. It was possible to walk all over the Bosporus around Constantinople and even cross to Asia on the ice. One huge iceberg crushed the wharf at the Acropolis, close to the tip of Constantinople’s peninsula, and another extremely large one hit the city wall, shaking it and the houses on the other side, before breaking into three large pieces; it was higher than the city walls. The terrified Constantinopolitans wondered what it could possibly portend.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/14/little-ice-age-thermometers-%E2%80%93-history-and-reliability/
tonyb
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Comment on Aerosols and Atlantic aberrations by Punksta
GaryM, you meant “And the heat goes on” , surely ?
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Comment on Assessing climate data record transparency and maturity by May OZONE
Thanks for sharing!
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by kim
Yep. Think what they could have done had they followed science instead of yielding to the influence of politicians, the money men. Sit on the waterfront long enough, you’ll see the bodies of your enemies float & flutter by.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
Doc, “your description > your remarkable description”
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
Bart, ‘Economics in the Trenches 101a – Trade or crime?’
Some economists recognize this: ‘Your Need and The Cost to Satisfy Your Need.’
1) You need something, you make it yourself. Opportunity Cost vs direct cost of trade.
2) You need something, you trade for it. Direct Cost of Trade vs opportunity cost .
3) You need something, you steal it. Intangibles now. Likelyhood of getting caught x consequent outcome vs imaginary direct cost; ie you the criminal wouldn’t have payed anything at all, at any point, ever, ever.
Economists vs the real world; several Secretaries of Labor who have never, never, actually employed an employee. Never actually calculated paycheck with holdings. Economist professors and writers who have never, never, never earned money from an employee, eg Krugman.
Painful truth; an employer sells an employee’s labor, for a profit. Painful, unavoidable truth, how can it be otherwise?
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Comment on Aerosols and Atlantic aberrations by Edim
There’s a very good correlation between the AMO and solar cycle frequency or solar cycle length (inverse correlation).
Figure 1 here:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.1954v1.pdf
It looks like the AMO shape to me. If the correlation continues, the AMO will go negative in this decade.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by jim
Example: Gleick blows-up his carer and AG Warmism to reveal the Heartland boogeymen are funded by the Power Strip Industry.
So very much lost for such little gained. Churchillian heroism in reverse.
That’s what Brando was, Churchill in reverse! First time I noticed that…
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Comment on Aerosols and Atlantic aberrations by Stacey
“the Atlantic regional climate is more pervasive than previously thought.”
Well this really is an original paper with a really original statement as above?
Unfortunately they missed out the beginning of their Narrative “Once upon a time in a land far far away…..
Of course, and the ending “And they all lived happily ever after”
It should be IPPC policy that all papers contained in their assessment carry the above beginning and ending.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by Captain Kangaroo
I think that’s that’s Dr. Orssengo.
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Comment on Lindzen et al.: response and parry by Peter Lang
Read the original post for the source of the $1.35 trillion.
Read the other posts and make an attempt to understand.
You have convinced me you are a loud-mouth, bombastic ideologue, with nothing ov value to contribute.
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