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Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by Eddie Turbulence

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Here’s what I can tell you about the models – they’re not useful for predicting temperature:

MODEL: IPCC5 (RCP8.5): 4.2C/century
MODEL: IPCC4 Warming High: 4.0C/century
MODEL: Hansen A: 3.2C/century ( since 1979 )
MODEL: Hansen B: 2.8C/century ( since 1979 )
MODEL: IPCC4 next few decades: 2.0C/century
MODEL: Hansen C: 1.9C/century ( since 1979 )
MODEL: IPCC4 Warming Low: 1.8C/century
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Observed: NASA GISS: ~1.6C/century ( since 1979 )
Observed: NCDC: ~1.5C/century ( since 1979 )
Observed: UAH MSU LT: ~1.4C/century (since 1979 )
Observed: RSS MSU LT: ~1.3C/century (since 1979 )
MODEL: IPCC5 (RCP2.6): 1.0C/century
Observed: RSS MSU MT: ~0.8C/century (since 1979 )
Observed: UAH MSU MT: ~0.5C/century (since 1979 )

I can tell you that the models are useless for predicting precipitation other than a global mean, because precipitation is a function of unpredictable air mass motion. That goes for storms as well.

I can also tell you that people like Santer tried to concoct a hot spot that matched the models rather than calling it a black swan by looking at two decades only of a much smaller ‘tropics’ when the trends look like this:

This is a big deal, because as I mention above, dynamics determine how much energy leaves to space by determining how much energy arrives in the upper troposphere.

A lot of ‘main stream’ IPCC crew wants to claim, the raobs are bad and leave it there. But as you can see, the pattern of trends from RATPAC, UAH and RSS are all quite similar. It would be strange to have an error that occurred just in the tropics and just between 400 and 200 millibars.
So it’s a tell that the group think is to question the observations and not the data ( it’s not a black swan! ).

Even Isaac Held, who I respect, can’t seem to bring himself to accept that a key aspect of energy transfer ( and according to theory, a big negative feedback ) doesn’t exist.

None of this means that radiatively active gasses aren’t active radiatively as has been shown for long before the advent of the IPCC. Yes there should be warming, subject to unpredictable dynamics.

So, what exactly do you believe the models are useful for?


Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by Theo Goodwin

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“It is unclear what defines climate science as a whole academically, let alone what climate is in and of itself. No, we don’t even have a coherent, physically based, definition for climate, let alone climate change. That is not because we can’t recognize change, but we do not know what parts of the endless, ongoing ubiquitous change actually count. This is as deep a problem as there is in modern science. All we have are ad hoc definitions guarded from scientific criticism by ignorant followers of Eris. Those followers call this settled science.”

Best criticism of mainstream climate science in existence. Sound on the scientific level, sound on scientific methodology, and sound on the philosophical level.

Comment on Week in review by jim2

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Drop ALL subsidies. Give solar the same tax breaks as other businesses get – or better yet, put the corporate tax at zero.

Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by Jim D

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Which chapters or sections in the IPCC WG1 report are not science in your opinion?

Comment on Week in review by justinwonder

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Interesting, but not surprising. From the paper:

“Two important points must be addressed regarding the artificiality of the model experiments. First, in the real world, the oceanic and atmospheric circulations are part of a coupled system and not specified independently as in our model simulations. For example, the surface trade winds are essential in driving the ocean heat flux by both the meridional overturning cells and the ocean gyres. An altered OHT would give rise to altered at- mospheric circulations which would then feed back on the heat transport by the wind-driven ocean circulation. Second, the experiments we perform are highly theoretical in that they involve an unrealistically large 100% change in OHT. With the aforemen- tioned caveats in mind, the artificiality of the model experiments does have an advantage in that it enables us to isolate key components of the climate system and examine them in a controlled context.”

Comment on Week in review by Jim D

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So fossil fuels enjoyed subsidies all this time, and now just as they start to look bad, you want to drop all subsidies.

Comment on Week in review by jim2

Comment on Week in review by jim2

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Fossil fuels get the same sort of tax treatment as other businesses with depletable resources. I’m not talking about doing away with traditional tax law. I’m talking about getting rid of subsidies.


Comment on Week in review by Jim D

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blueice, Arctic melting is because warmer air and warmer water are getting there. The air and water happen to be warmer because of global warming. It follows.

Comment on Week in review by jim2

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And from my POV, fossil fuels including coal look wonderful.

Comment on Week in review by kim

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JD may not understand that canard. Fossil fuel subsidies in the third world help the poor, ‘renewable’ subsidies in the developed world hurt the poor.
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Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by AK

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The whole thing. Everything the IPCC does is politically driven pseudo-science. Much of it is based on science, but it's <a href="http://quotes.dictionary.com/It_is_magnificent_but_it_is_not_war" rel="nofollow">not</a> science itself.

Comment on Week in review by stevenreincarnated

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Ocean heat transport models show the poleward heat transport causes the warming.

Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by kim

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Much of the science from which the IPCC’s conclusions are drawn has been created in deliberate ignorance of natural processes in climate.
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Comment on Week in review by AK

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The whole “patent” system began as a subsidy. First for opening trade secrets in return for a limited-time exclusive monopoly, then for invention, then R&D. The period is certainly too long, and it needs to be tweaked considerably, but IMO the subsidy can still benefit everybody, properly re-designed.


Comment on Week in review by stevenreincarnated

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True their model was placed at a very large difference in ocean heat transport. An older model showed a 10% increase in ocean heat transport could cause 1C increase at the equator and a 2C increase globally. 10% is a much more practical number.

Comment on Week in review by stevenreincarnated

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Jim D has disproven the warming was at least partially caused by a change in ocean heat transport completely unrelated to CO2 or are we just hearing the world according to Jim D again?

Comment on Christopher Essex on suppressing scientific inquiry by AK

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True. But that just means it's <b>shoddy</b> science.

Comment on Week in review by phatboy

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A 20c per gallon tax is nothing compared to what we pay in fuel tax here in the UK.

Comment on Week in review by ristvan

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In my opinion, Rossi ECat is a scam. I wrote that into the last book also, with two separate distinct proofs (legal liability insurance). The claimed process nickel to copper transmutation was the last straw. Not physics, wrong isotopes! BS. Also provided indelible evidence on two other related scams, Blacklight Power hydrinos (took in over $60 million) and Zenn/Eestor CMBT capacitors (took in over $40 million). Energy research is an interesting place, where many manifestly know little. I have invested much, and suffered ‘slings and arrows’.

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