“The Revolution has already been televised.”
Instead of barricading oneself isn’t the idea to go over the barricade?
Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by mwgrant
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Comment on Criticism, tolerance and changing your mind by GaryM
justinwonder,
” Are leftist thinkers drawn to those fields, by their inner nature, or were they sold on those careers by leftist recruiters?”
Progressivism isn’t a conspiracy, it is a political movement. There are certainly progressive “recruiters” out there teaching young students and politicians the Alinsky methods of pursuing power. I met and was recruited by some in my teens, back in the dark ages.
The most effective means activist progressives (as opposed to default progressives who are the substantial majority of the movement and voting bloc), was to move into the educational colleges in the 60s and 70s. That combined with the move into education in general helped them proselyitize future voters beginning in grade school.
Once you indoctrinate the next class of elementary, secondary and university teachers, the rest follows. That is the real fight behind Common Core. He who designs the mandatory test, dictates the curriculum.
As for journalism and the rest, they are the product of the educational deconstruction of western history, politics and economics. They are the default conservatives, who believe what they believe because it was all they were ever taught, everyone they work with has the same outlook, and they have been taught to avoid exposure to thought contrary to the progressive political zeitgeist.
Activist progressives are a small minority. But as you note, they are concentrated in positions of power. Why? Because the very nature of progressivism is the seeking and maintenance of power. Default progressives, on the other hand, make up a majority of the country. Default progressives often don’t share the real principles of the activists, they just don’t know what those principles are.
You will find that the ‘leaders’ of almost every area of society are more progressive than their peers, because it was their progressivism (their vanity) that led them to seek power in the first place. Editors, department chairs, and particularly politicians, all tend to the progressive bent more than other members of the society at large.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by stefanthedenier
Rud Istvan said: ”episodically cooling since the Holocene optimum some 10 millennia ago”
Rud my friend – for Holocene optimum;the data was harvested from thin air also! then the thermometer wasn’t accurate also. Regarding ”global temp” lying didn’t start in the 80’s – it started since the day Darwin published his book! Therefore: the Warmist use the lies ”Skeptics” use – to create themselves another warming in 100y.
Warmist are using Tony’s crystal ball, to ”predict”
Tony will tell you that: 1200’s was warmer than today – because was ”written” on a goat’s skin (150 years before paper was introduced in Europe, AND: half a millennium before thermometer was invented. That’s why: when I prove that; 1230-1700 was exactly the same ”global” temp overall as today – you cannot recognize the truth, BECAUSE: when you are constantly stewing in crap – you cannot smell the roses…
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Comment on Criticism, tolerance and changing your mind by GaryM
“default conservatives”
should of course be “default progressives”
There haven’t been default conservatives in decades.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by GaryM
Yes, this faux agreement is just for show, to make it look like the progressives are “doing something” so they can keep their budgets growing and their low information voters voting.
But at least this iteration of progressive assininity won’t result in the Islamic fanatics in Iran getting nuclear weapons. Same principles, much greater damage.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by ulriclyons
All climate change roads may lead To Paris, but that doesn’t mean that they will be open when the conference ends. Why on Earth did they pick Paris in December after what happened there about the same time of the month in December 2010! A cold November followed by a burst of stronger Atlantic flow early December could dump a lot of snow. This could get very amusing.
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Comment on Criticism, tolerance and changing your mind by Peter Davies
I see that my name has popped up and that I seem to have been misguided in some way by reading what Joshua is posting. FWIW I find his posts on the state of the AGW debate to be generally true but his persona as reflected in the way he puts points across tends to exacerbate rather then illuminate. I am absolutely certain that Joshua without his keyboard is great human being with a strong interest in preservation of the environment and I hope to meet him in the person one day.
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Comment on Criticism, tolerance and changing your mind by John Carpenter
“I am absolutely certain that Joshua without his keyboard is great human being with a strong interest in preservation of the environment and I hope to meet him in the person one day.”
Anyone who loves chicken wings, beer and bacon cant be all that bad.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by timg56
Josh might be excused since he has acknowledged he can’t do the science. But now it appears he can’t do simple arithmetic.
It would be 20 years of data Josh, assuming the topic is the divergence between model projections and actual temps.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by ulriclyons
Oh dear!
“A wet and windy period of the year usually as cyclonic systems move in from the Atlantic, the two most stormy periods are 25th – 29th November and 6th – 12th December. 98%”
http://www.metcheck.com/UK/singularities.asp
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by JCH
The first 1/4 of 2015 on GISS is probably .777C.
No reason to believe it’s not going to continue its upward streak through July.
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Comment on Criticism, tolerance and changing your mind by Jim D
It was generic, just like the main post is.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by captdallas2 0.8 +/- 0.2
David Appell, “Dallas: Like all volcanoes, Pinatubo didn’t have any effect on long-term warming. Once its aerosols fell out of the atmosphere, it was, temperature-wise, as if it never happened.”
You can look at it that way or you can look at it like climate is less sensitive to forcing than the models project. If “all” atmospheric forcing is created equally, a model miss on the low side is an indication of too large a sensitivity. Steven Schwartz had that view along with Lewis and Curry which has been revised downward with new aerosol forcing estimates.
Then again, Bjorn Stevens was in the crew advocating “adjustments” since surface temperature Ts plus sst isn’t the same as tas produced by the models plus “surface” temperature has some Zeroth law issues.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by David Appell
“We’ll see” is something else you’ve been saying all along, as the world keeps warming.
We’re already “seen.” For some reason, that evidence never sinks in.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by Wagathon
… the simplified model you propose is obviously incapable of predicting the next period of global cooling. Such periods have happened before — irrespective of atmospheric CO2 levels — and, it’s only logical that they will happen again. That’s what everyone knows: climate change is real –i.e., it really does change.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by Turbulent Eddie
I know I’m supposed to be ‘nice’ but I can’t fathom the people with money and bad ideas.
I was reviewing the Club of Rome and saw Ted ‘canibal’ Turner on the list
I realized how money and power in the hands of the xanax deprived ( such as Steyer)
is dangerous thing:
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by David Appell
Dallas wrote: “You can look at it that way or you can look at it like climate is less sensitive to forcing than the models project.”
The graph I gave disproves that idea.
Climate models are never going to be perfect — and can’t be anyway, since no one knows the exact emission pathway the world will take for the next many decades. We’ll have to make decisions (and already are) in the face of considerable uncertainty. Sorry, but that’s how it is.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by David Appell
Moderation, really Judith? What are you afraid of?
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by David Appell
Eddie: I prefer to go by the latest (CMIP5) models.
As I said, the simpliest climate model is this: total warming is proportional to total carbon emissions, with the proportionality constant being 1.5 C per trillion tons of carbon emitted.
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Comment on Road to Paris: Tracking climate pledges by David Appell
Trying again, maybe without the moderation:
“… the simplified model you propose is obviously incapable of predicting the next period of global cooling.”
a) why does a model have to predict periods of cooling? What we need to know is the long-term warming. In 100 years, they will look back on the “hiatus” as an inconsequential (though scientifically interesting) blip, just as we look on the period 1945-1975.
b) today’s models won’t, and can’t, predict short-term trends, which depend on natural variability. No one can foresee natural variability like ENSOs, volcanoes, or solar changes. SOME DAY, with better computational power, we might be able to calculate changes in longer-term ocean cycles, and maybe ENSOs. But model power increases much slower than Moore’s law.
b) there aren’t going to be many, if any, periods of cooling in our future.
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