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Comment on Week in review – science and technology edition by captdallas2 0.8 +/- 0.2

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David Appell, “McIntyre made a bad mistake in his third article, mistaking a proxy for water mass movement for one as one for temperature.”

I believe hottie is mistaken. d15N is a proxy for nutrients whether from upwelling cold water or runoff (fertilizer sewage etc.) and the focus of the Rahmsdorf paper was using Mann’s temperature reconstructions to estimate AMOC. So d15N as used by Rahmsdorf would have to be a temperature proxy for that location and not a generic nutrient proxy. Over fishing in that region would reduce nutrients, fish do poop rather regularly, fewer fish less fish poop.. Rahmsdorf is ignoring confounding factors and assuming higher nutrients means increase cold water flow but there are temperature reconstructions for the region better suited for that purpose.

So Rahmsdorf has treemometers with precipitation and nutrients as confounding factors, varves with land use as a confounding factor and dN15 with precipitation/land use (runoff) and over fishing as confounding factors. Then to boot, the d15N reconstruction has only 4 data points prior to 1930 and only one prior to 1700 which is ridiculous for Rahmsdorf’s analysis.


Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by David W. Norcross

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I have been holding my breath waiting for your response to this outrage. You did not disappoint!. I had such high hopes for TGPC, particularly because you were elected to its leadership, that I joined the TGPC and held back my trembling finger over the “resign membership” button after the original APS policy statement. Now, absent a 180 in the new draft policy statement, I shall resign my APS membership of many decades, and disown my status as an APS Fellow.

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Draft APS Statement on Climate Change | Enjeux énergies et environnement

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by stevefitzpatrick

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Judith,
What happened to Koonins and Rossner? Why did they leave?

Comment on Climate sensitivity: Ringberg edition by David Springer

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@Frederick Colbourne

Outstanding.

+1

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Danny Thomas

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I’m sorry, but from this: “Nevertheless, as recognized by Working Group 1 of the IPCC, scientific challenges remain to our abilities to observe, interpret, and project climate changes.”
We get this:”The APS reiterates its 2007 call to support actions…………”

Or, we have no idea what’s gonna happen but let’s do this anyhow?

Comment on Climate sensitivity: Ringberg edition by David Springer

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Yay! It’s not as worse as you thought!

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by mwgrant

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I don’t know any civil engineers. Oh you mean civil engineers. :O)


Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by AK

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Yep…

Lenin-style infiltration of the power structure.

Too bad. Science was a good thing while we had it. Now we have Lysenko 2.0

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Peter Lang

Comment on Week in review: policy and politics edition by Peter Lang

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Can you re-post your “thoughtful post” here, or didn’t you keep a copy of it?

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by AK

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Anybody giving odds whether there'll be an election in 2016? History <a href="http://spartacus-educational.com/ROMcaesar.htm" rel="nofollow">repeating itself</a> (sort of)?<blockquote>Once in power he [Caesar] brought in a new bill that provided land for old soldiers. When the Senate refused to pass the measure Caesar took the bill to the Public Assembly. This action gained him the support of the army and the people of Rome. It also created a lot of powerful enemies in the Senate, especially when he resorted to employing men to beat up senators who disagreed with him.</blockquote>

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by beththeserf

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” I’ll be
judge,
I’ll be
jury,’
Said
cunning
old Fury,’

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Wagathon

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One small step for Mann. One giant step for Cosmology.

Applying the Discombobulating Principle to Global Warming: Nothing explains the level of certainty about AGW theory in the field of climatology that ultimately, is not cosmological. AGW theory can never be reduced to a falsifiable hypothesis and therefore has no practical utility outside of making something that is unimaginably complex appear simple: like, fitting a least squares trend-line to a haze of points.

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Peter Davies

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It seems that the content of final APS draft statement has little in common with the earlier work of the Koonan sub-committee. While the process of formulating the APS statement on climate change had the appearance of objectivity, it appears to have been corrupted by a politically driven agenda.


Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by George Devries Klein, PhD, PG, FGSA

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Dr. Curry wrote, ” have been harshly critical of the statements on climate change made by various professional societies, and the process by which those statements were crafted and approved…” She couldn’t have said it better, and I totally agree.

I dropped my AGU membership in 1999 because of their advocacy positions, particularly moving into areas where expertise was minimal. Be assured, one day, scientific societies which adopt thee ‘policy’ statements will pay a big price when their non-profit status is questioned. Watch dues go u and membership decline.

As a Fellow of the Geological Society of America (GSA), I periodically blog on their open forum and on their Climate Community website and among other things, I have been accused of “being on the payroll of the Koch brothers,” and when posting a link to Svensmark’s video on clouds accused of doing science by u-tube,” and a few other choice things from so-called respected “scientists.” I have considered dropping my affiliation but am reluctant to do it because of a career award I was given by them, long service as an associate editor of two of their journals, and because as a 50-year member/fellow, my dues are free. There are day I think it should be renamed the PC-GSA, and perhaps that should extend to PC-AGU and PC-APS

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by JCH

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I’ve always suspected Makiko Sato is a ninja assassin.

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by Peter O'Neill

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Lysenko 2.0 – Lysenko, just without the bodies.

I can’t resist sharing here a piece from the annals of the Irish Mountaineering Club:

Comrade Lysenko

(To be sung to Handel’s Water Music)

Comrade Lysenko,
The great transmuter,
Our brilliant tutor,
No brain astuter,
He gives us wheat from oats,
He gives us sheep from goats,
And by inbreeding stoats
New forms of life promotes,
And in a thousand ways
Nature herself obeys
Whatever he may decree.

Comrade Lysenko,
The great remoulder,
No reason colder,
No genius bolder,
He teaches cows to calf,
He teaches calves to sow,
He teaches sows to laugh
When they did not know how.
That simple things he’d shown
Could be so long unknown
By bourgeois brain alone.

In every bourgeois brain
Fear and confusion reign.
They have no laughing sows
And no transmuted grain,
And it is very clear
That what they really fear
Is what they cannot explain.

Comrade Lysenko,
The Soviet nation
With acclamation
Greets this innovation.
As Nature’s referee
New laws will you decree
To make the workers free,
And lead them on
To Communism’s victory.

Peter Kenny (circa 1950)

Peter Kenny (1928-1989) was a notable Irish climber in the early days of the Irish Mountaineering Club, before he emigrated to the USA. There he became a leading radiation physicist who pioneered methods of computer-based imaging of tissues that have since become standard methods in medical diagnostic imaging. Like many scientists in the 1950s he toyed with Marxism. With him it was a love-hate relationship, and “Comrade Lysenko” showed his ability to ridicule aspects of Soviet Marxism.

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by PeteBonk

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The American Chemical Society meeting held its Spring National Meeting in Denver late last month. The ACS procedure for creating ACS Public Policy Statements relies on a set of committees that would help draft and approve a policy,which is then approved by the ACS Board of Directors or its designate. In practice about 50-100 people can get a policy thru that claims to speak for the 159,000 ACS members. A year ago I had a letter published in Chemical and Engineering News suggesting that ACS Policy Statements be approved by the more representative ACS Council (~500 members), or even by a supermajority of ACS members. Interestingly, in Denver several involved committees, after a long drawn out dithering and lamenting, approved an ACS Policy draft on Hydraulic Fracturing, which I found rather benign and not living up to the angst (of which there was plenty) surrounded its creation.

Comment on Draft APS Statement on Climate Change by stevenreincarnated

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Let the panel publish thier travel record for the two years and show us how serious they are about cutting back on emmisions. If they all stayed home I might think they were serious.

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