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Comment on Making (non)sense of climate denial by harrytwinotter

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Judith Curry.

“Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.”

No, it is the way they are behaving and in public. It is no conspiracy. They want people to reject established science.


Comment on Making (non)sense of climate denial by harrytwinotter

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“Going through all this did make me realize something: Cook,Lewandowsky,Mann,Oreskes et al. are conspiracy theorists – they see a fossil fuel funded, conservative conspiracy of ‘climate denial,’ the so-called merchants of doubt meme.”

Judith Curry is becoming more and more divorced from reality. Too much ideologically-motived pseudoscience for me, time to avoid this website.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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Didn’t see any real problems, just – pontificating.

Comment on Making (non)sense of climate denial by Danny Thomas

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JIM D,
Nicely done. A short term time frame of 15 years is invalid when it doesn’t suit your needs, yet now you’ll state “A new warming trend started 15 years ago.” I like how you did that. 15 years is a trend, except when it’s not, but it is, not really. And that infamous entity known as the IPCC says it is (or isn’t it?). I’m learning about this whole fruit picking stuff: http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1950/mean:12/plot/gistemp/from:2002/trend

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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Why would you think warming a degree or two would be calamitous?

Comment on Making (non)sense of climate denial by Jim D

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Just what the skeptics have been doing, so it should be an accepted method to them, no?

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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The vatican can sell carbon credit ‘indulgences’.

That way obama can still fly down to florida for golf lessons.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by sciguy54

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To a poor citizen of the third world, a fast and orderly transition from burning dung inside the home to burning coal in a modern power plant several miles away would seem like a gift from heaven.

Improved air quality, vastly improved productivity, a local ecosystem no longer stripped of every scrap of wood, maybe even a box fan to help infants and elders survive a sweltering night. One should ponder long and hard on the meaning of morality before denying these very basic improvements for many millions of the suffering today.

Hopefully others (i.e. China) would step forward to help if capital is denied by traditional sources struggling to redefine morality.


Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Jim D

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It is two versus four plus degrees depending on policy decisions.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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And to palm springs after speechifying about california drought.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Jim D

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A tank of gas is a week’s wages there. It will be a while before they can even afford fossil fuels.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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Well, they already have, <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/02/25/bank-chinas-africa-investment-to-jump-70-by-2015/" rel="nofollow">even before the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank</a>. The fastest growing economies are largely in Africa, and that kind of growth attracts capital ( also from the zero interest rate bound moribund west ). Also fortunately, the demographic trends are largely secular - economic development leads to lower population growth. Foolish ancient ideas from religious leaders aren't important.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Turbulent Eddie

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CO2 levels were flat in 2014 without policy.
Forcing is trending below even the low end scenarios.
What monsters are you imagining?

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Mike Flynn

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Jim D,

Do you want to return to the time when Antarctica supported abundant plant and animal life, or keep it in its present ice-bound, arid, and inhospitable condition? To go back to the way it was might take more than four degrees.

What do you think?

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by JCH

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I hate welfare queens. Africans should be drug tested before getting cheap energy. Give a man fish to eat, and he’ll conclude he’s owed a square meal. Teach a man to fish…


Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by Scott Basinger

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I’m surprised nobody’s noted that it’s probably not the followers of the Catholic church the Warmists are after, it’s the money. The Catholic church has tons of cash.

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Comment on Making (non)sense of climate denial by Don Monfort

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Keep at it, jimmy. All your years of dull, dogmatic debunking of skeptic arguments is about to pay off. A couple of more comments like that last one and I am sure you will win Danny over. Right, Danny? Please don’t disappoint him, Danny. This will be his first.

Comment on Pope Francis, climate change, and morality by GaryM

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Brian G Valentine,

Francis was relatively silent because he had no power. The last two popes have been political and doctrinal conservatives. You don’t get radical leftist ideas, and the stridency with which he is pursuing it, in a matter of a couple years.

The thing about progressives, once they gain power, they reveal their true selves.

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