Shall we vote on it?
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Comment on Nature Physics Insight – Complexity by hunter
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by hunter
kim,
I am certain that we can look at certain Greek tragedies for some guidance on this.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by hunter
Gary M,
Bernie is here to troll, not to demonstrate his intelligence.
Which is fortunate, since he is very successful at the former.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Jim2
And then there are the Alinsky liberals (US definition) we are stuck with now.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Mark Kantor
Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow (Farrar, Straus & Giroux 2011) addresses similar issues and is very readable. The author, an Israeli-American psychologist and Nobel laureate, summarizes his research on what he calls System 1 and System 2 in this book, discussing how intuitive decisionmaking and more deliberate decisionmaking occur. The results of the research are deeply troubling to anyone who would like to think humans are rational decisionmakers.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Bart R
Jim2 | April 20, 2012 at 11:52 am |
Would that be the same government that passed laws in Pennsylvanian forbidding physicians from telling victims of poisoning by fracking what made them sick? (Likely primarily toluene and hydrazine, btw.)
Oh, wait, no, that’s the state, not the US government per se.
Or the US government that subsidizes to the tune of $billions annually the extractive energy sector, both directly and indirectly, favors the industry with legislation and infrastructure, pressures foreign governments to bend to fossil interests?
Free trade is the cake. The cake is a lie, on that basis.
More to the point, review any of the FTA’s, and look up the sections dealing with dumping and poaching. You’ll see that the trade measures against illegitimate practices are if anything harsher and swifter under any FTA than unilateral actions by injured nations.
Only a petrochemical reserve is a petrochemical reserve. It’s valuable as a resource for fertilizer, plastics, pharmaceuticals and other industrial chemicals. Burning your petrochemical reserve in preference to _cheaper_ alternatives is just idiotic (the price per unit of energy of gasoline soared way past the price per unit for carbamide and liquid ammonia both, more than a decade ago).
Promote selling inner city children to India to work in their call centers, and burning the contents of museums and art galleries for heat; you’ll get about the same effect.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Bart R
timg56 | April 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
Your discription is more like potato – rock. As in you really don’t know how to accurately describe either, based on your description of a Libertarian viewpoint.
Actually? Huh. I’d think “typically are said to” would directly tell anyone who can parse the agreement of verbs to nouns that I wasn’t describing a libertarian, much less a Libertarian, viewpoint.
Read harder.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Bernie Schreiver
Mike, please let me testify that I have personally collaborated with numerous IBM scientists and engineers, and have invariably found their work and their professional ethics to be both of the highest quality. Perhaps you might progress toward a similar opinion, if you watched IBM CEO Samuel Palmisano’s lecture of September 21, 2011, titled IBM100/The Leadership Agenda: Thoughts on the Future of Leadership:
We cannot drift, cannot simply hunker down and hope to ride it out. I think the past two years have proven that’s not a winning strategy, because this shift is not cyclical; it’s secular. The world will be very different on the other side. It’s going to create winners and losers, based primarily on what on what we do as leaders.If we seize upon this resource, I believe, future historians are going to look back on this moment not as what they’re calling “the new normal” of recession – increased protectionism or lowered expectation, which will only lead to a lower standard of living, by the way – but I think they are going look back on the dawn of a new golden age of innovation, of economic growth and of global leadership.
Terrific stuff, eh? An integrated philosophy that liberals and conservatives alike can embrace? 
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by blueice2hotsea
Rob Starkey -
In Russia the old surviving hard-line communists are the arch-conservatives. Conservatism is about preserving traditional values.
GaryM correctly includes Judeo-Christian ethics as part of traditional U.S. values. Give it up.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Rob Starkey
Blue
Communism is an economic system. The opposite of communism is probably pure capitalism. There can be communists who are socially liberal and others who are socially conservative.
I have not given up in educating you yet–lol
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Jim2
You have no proof that fracking made anyone sick in Pennsylvania or anywhere else.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by Bernie Schreiver
Jim2, for me what’s just as impressive as the science, is that Walter Munk was born in 1917, and is giving that lecture in 2009! So whatever brand of vitamins Walter’s been taking, we should *ALL* of us be taking them. 
Having reached age 90++, Walter Munk is totally immune to considerations of political pressure and personal gain … so what we’re seeing in that video are the unvarnished, unfiltered scientific opinions of the world’s most experienced oceanographer.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by GaryM
timg56,
My comment was “’Historians’ by the way are among the most uniformly progressive tribes in our society. ”
Most uniformly, not completely uniformly.
Also, the fact that you majored in history does not make you a historian. And if you are a historian, ie. you are a professor/instructor of history, or publish historical research, and you are not a progressive, all I can say is congratulations. You are in a very small minority. Though that minority does exist, as I noted in my comment.
Don’t blame me for characterizing historians as overwhelmingly progressive, blame the historians who answer poll questions.
Here is just one example. A poll of historians regarding their opinions of who the best presidents were:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/historians-obama-better-than-reagan/sienna-presidents-2010-top-ten/
Eisenhower, a moderate/progressive Republican made the bottom ranks of the list a couple times. But the only genuine conservative is Abraham Lincoln. (Who, by the way, historians are currently trying to deconstruct as a progressive.)
I would claim Washington as a conservative, since he resisted the efforts to centralize power in himself as king, but I am loathe to politicize our greatest president ever. He may be the only historical figure who genuinely transcends party. Historians rank him fourth, which tells you more about them than about him.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by mike
I’ll walk this much of a mile in your shoes, Bernie:
Let IBM or whoever, on their own dime, within the law, with no crony-capitalist good deals, no taxpayer guarantees, no United Nations pay-offs, no philosopher kings’ thumbs on the scale, and the like work up a faster, cheaper, smarter world entirely at their own risk. If IBM succeeds, they keep the profits of their success. If they fail, they “eat” the losses. And, if I like their faster, cheaper, smarter, brave-new-world, I’ll buy some of it–if not, I’ll pass. And no pig-in-a-poke, “trust-me-I’m-a-climate-scientist” deals either.
In the meantime, let’s all agree that cancelling the up-coming Rio+20, carbon-ugly, hypocrite freak-show and re-scheduling it as a video-conference event only is a way to both spare the tax-payer a green-washed, rip-off hecatomb of his/her hard earned bucks and materially reduce CO2 emissions (if that last is a even a worry).
O. K. Bernie? We got a deal?
P. S. Hey, Bernie! Let me add that I really like your poise–my last comment was kinda, sorta intended to get your goat, among other things. But you didn’t bite! My compliments.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by blueice2hotsea
Bart R | <a href="http://judithcurry.com/2012/04/19/the-righteous-mind/#comment-193833" rel="nofollow">April 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm</a>
<blockquote>Would that be the same government that passed laws in Pennsylvanian forbidding physicians from telling victims of poisoning by fracking what made them sick?</blockquote>
Huh? The Pennsylvania law requires oil drillers to disclose their 'trade secret' chemicals upon doctor's request. Yes, doctors are required to sign a confidentiality agreement. And they can be sued if they engage in industrial espionage by selling secrets to competitors. So, what?
You seem to be claiming the law would inhibit treatment of patients or prevent injury lawsuits against drillers. If so, link please.
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Comment on The Righteous Mind by mike
Bernie,
Yr: “Having reached age 90++ , Walter Munk is completely immune to considerations of politics pressure and personal gain…”
C’mon Bernie–don’t be so naive about us old guys. My guess is that they agreed to give Munk’s hot-babe, barely-legal girlfriend-on-the-side a “no-show” job if he made the video. But there’s lots of other ways to get to us geezers. So maybe it was something else.
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