“Ice and snow are good insulators.”
And in the winter on a clear night the surface cools below air temp.
Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by micro6500
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Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by micro6500
“Much has been and continues to be learned from ARGO.”
Sure but the uncertainty has to be high due to poor sampling, consider all of the macro scale features that exists that are invisible to the network, because they exist between buoys, as well as the fact they have an almost useless (for this task) temporal range.
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Comment on Week in review – science edition by hockeyschtick
Arrgh... meant to write in the last comment
...HEAT cannot be transferred from a <b>lower</b> frequency/temperature/energy body to a </b> higher</b> frequency/temperature/energy body, but for the sake of argument I will assume it can be.
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Comment on Week in review – science edition by Willard
You might like this, JimD:
Brian Olson is a software engineer in Massachusetts who wrote a program to draw “optimally compact” equal-population congressional districts in each state, based on 2010 census data. Olson’s algorithm draws districts that respect the boundaries of census blocks, which are the smallest geographic units used by the Census Bureau. This ensures that the district boundaries reflect actual neighborhoods and don’t, say, cut an arbitrary line through somebody’s house.
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Comment on Intermittent grid storage by Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup #186 | Watts Up With That?
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Wagathon
Why doesn’t the California legislature just buck up and pass the law they really want: diamond lanes reserved for Democrat voters.
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Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup #186 | Watts Up With That?
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Comment on Impact of AMO/PDO on U.S. regional surface temperatures by Weekly Climate and Energy News Roundup #186 | Watts Up With That?
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by RiHo08
Do forced choices promote green energy? Some surprising results, with policy implications.[link]
“We have speculated that greater effectiveness of forced choice as compared with green
energy defaults might be driven by guilt and reactance. When people are required to choose, that
mere requirement might trigger otherwise dormant or ineffective moral values and social norms,
ensuring very different results from standard energy defaults.”
Message: forcing people to feel guilty about choices they make, or, especially don’t make, when those choices are framed in a moral and “socially betterment” context, pushes people to make the choice they do not feel good about even though they did ostensively “make” the choice.
Governments may wish to use the guilt mechanism to force citizen enrollment into programs, especially “green” programs deemed socially beneficial.
The authors of this social science study carry on the current Harvard and Columbia social policy thoughts regarding forcing social change ala what and how Saul Alinsky did in Chicago.
The article is an informative read if nothing other than providing an insight into what the rascals are up to.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by RiHo08
Steve Mosher
“they shoot horses dont they?”
“The techniques (horse whispering) vary in their precise tenets but generally share principles of developing a rapport with horses,[3] using communication techniques derived from observation of free-roaming horses,[4] and rejecting abusive training methods.” Wiki
It seems to me that those who utter such a vigorous and anti-coal meme such as by yourself, may learn something from “horse whisperers”, particularly developing a rapport with others; i.e. willing to listen; observing natural behavior; and rejecting abusive coercion.
Putting something out of its misery implies euthanasia, which has in the past, been considered one of consent, otherwise, it devolves to execution by the particular party in power.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Ragnaar
“‘battery parity’, the moment when home solar + a lithium-ion battery makes economic sense, will arrive in Germany by next summer, 2016.” – price of energy storage link
The worse we make the electricity market by disrupting it, the better batteries look.
“The study authors concluded that, at a capital cost of $350 / kwh for lithium-ion batteries (which they expected by 2020, but which Tesla has already beaten), it made sense across the ERCOT region to deploy at least 15,000 MWh of battery storage.” New plan. Reduce solar and wind subsidies. Give that reduction money to batteries. Do this and everything will fall into place didn’t work. We are now at, Do this and do this 2nd thing.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Wagathon
The Greeks only wanted to dine out at the Big Government Free Lunch cafe. Their “No” vote is nothing more than a prideful way of admitting no economy can continue to pull that amount of dead weight — not without someone else continually picking up the tab.
The result in Greece is the culmination of the Left’s decision to defrock morality, common decency and for having its way with the Golden Goose. It will take years to flush out their dysfunctional society given the dented-up political and economic system that has been so severely corrupted by lies, superstition and envy of government junkies.
The official Greek medium of exchange is now grounded in a Leftist ponzi scheme economic shell game and their liberal Utopia is become a blame game of how and why cash for clunkers Euro-communism resulted in economic chaos.
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Comment on Week in review – science edition by Jim D
HS, you have some conceptual errors with the physics. IR is not “recycled”, it is emitted by the GHGs and clouds in the sky. However, now that you have admitted that 324 W/m2 is emitted by the sky and keeps the surface warmer than it would be without them, what do you suggest would happen if we increased the GHGs? Conversely, what would happen to the surface net radiation if those GHGs were not there to emit IR, like with an O2/N2 atmosphere that is incapable of doing any what you misname “recycling”? There is a difference in your “recycling” between doubling CO2 and removing GHGs entirely, right?
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by dougbadgero
Nuclear plants in the U.S. Use armed guards.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by AK
There’s much cheaper available. And with economies of scale, and the right technology (motorcycle engines, more rugged generators, proper suspension) I’m guessing under $100/KW once it gets going. Which for a 25KW unit would be around $2500. A small fraction of the car’s price.
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Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by Jim D
catweazle, yet the Texas drought 2011, Russia firestorms 2010, the European heatwaves were 3-sigma events in summer temperatures that became more than ten times more likely due to that shift. Interesting to learn things like that, isn’t it. You get some respect for shifting distributions. It’s not the mean, but the tail that gets you.
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Comment on The beyond-two-degree inferno by Alan Poirier
At least she is aptly named.
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Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by Ragnaar
PA:
“Well, any lushly vegetated area has a CO2 level of around 200 PPM at 1:00 in the afternoon (LST – local standard time). At that point the plants stops growing until the CO2 level rises significantly.”
So on a daily scale warm sunny days are going to reduce the insulation when it matters and cool cloudy days will retain it. Both temperature extremes are softened.
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Comment on The beyond-two-degree inferno by fulltimetumbleweed/tumbleweedstumbling
No such thing as ‘the time for debate has ended’ in science. She has made a very clear statement of “I am totally biased, in an absolute conflict of interest for my position as Chief Editor of Science and so I am handing in my resignation now.” Well except for the last part. There as none so blind as those who will not see. She just lost any credibility as a scientist she may have had.
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Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by JCH
LST – landing ship tank
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