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Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by AK

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Your comment on Intelligent Design an illogical ad hominem (genetic) fallacy i.e. rejecting A because someone believes an unrelated issue B. Your statement is equivalent to advocating that satellite microwave temperature measurements must be excluded because one of the developers has a particular belief about the origins of the universe.

False parallel.

“Intelligent Design” isn’t science, and doesn’t belong in any scientific discussion. Anybody who treats it as “science” can’t be trusted. Before you listen to anything they say, you have to check every reference, not just to see what it says, but to assure that it hasn’t been misrepresented, or misinterpreted based on creationist assumptions.


Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by rhhardin

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Oh and get a straight snath. They put way too much bend in the bent snaths.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by AK

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While we’re at it, bureaucrats charged with mis/malfeasance should be considered guilty until proven innocent. And until that proof is forthcoming, and has been judged adequate, they shouldn’t be allowed to draw a government salary again. Or exercise any government “authority”.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by David L. Hagen

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AK you perpetuate ristvan's illogical arguments and presuppositions. You are saying in essence that that Isaac Newtons laws of motion and gravity are non-scientific because Newton wrote more on Revelation than he did on Physics. Try addressing the arguments rather than attacking the person. I presume you try to establish <a href="http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Morality" rel="nofollow">morality </a>based on the four laws of physics and stochastic variations.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by AK

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<blockquote>You are saying in essence that that Isaac Newtons laws of motion and gravity are non-scientific because Newton wrote more on Revelation than he did on Physics.</blockquote>Nope. First, Newton was involved in <b>creating</b> science as we know it today. Second, Newton's "laws" have been demonstrated to be wrong.<blockquote> I presume you try to establish morality based on the four laws of physics and stochastic variations.</blockquote>Nope. <a href="http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/elist/eListRead/chimps_and_bonobos_prove_that_moral_behavior_is_a_product_of_evolution/" rel="nofollow">Evolution</a>

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by beththeserf

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The Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution
unleashed human freedom and energy allowing
human innovation and human life to prosper, ending
famine and increasing longevity in the West.

The Industrial Revolution and technology developments
were very much the result of trial and error tinkering and
the curiosity of the enlightened amateur. The main
technologies that led to the jump in living standards in
the modern world were the empirical efforts of craftsmen
like James Hargreaves and John Kay who developed
mechanized spinning and weaving, Roger Arkwright who
invented the water frame, and the Reverend Edmund
Cartwright who invented the power loom.

‘Trial and error works in naychure’ said Darwin, the
great exemplar of Enlightenment curiosity. And trial
and error works in human enterprise, says Schumpeter,
advocate ferfer open society.A capitalist economy,
enables demand and supply feedbacks ter operate,
fergit Keynes and EU top down ( unelected)
bureaucrats messing up signals in the economy.
Printing more money and guvuhmint creating jobs
don’t fix problems but creates them. Ref, Jane Jacobs,
study, ‘The Economy of Cities’ on messy cities like
Birmingham where little industries adding new work
split off into new organizations, while Manchester’s
efficient specialization contained the seeds of it’s
later stagnation.

Top-down…sigh… think those unrealized predictions,
5/10 year plans, think Ming Dynasty centralization
effects, Marxist/Fascist societies, economic
stagnation and unemployment, environmental cover
ups, think EU supra guvuhmint (unelected) top down
decision making within the Brussels ivory tower, the
currency problems and unemployment… And think
energy and liberties generated by the Enlightenment
and Industrial Revolution trial and error feedback
process

bts rant.

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Comment on Risk assessment: What is the plausible ‘worst scenario’ for climate change? by PA

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JCH | July 22, 2015 at 10:05 pm |
SB 2025.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/2012publications/CEC-500-2012-039/CEC-500-2012-039.pdf

Santa Barbara sea level change, “1.25 +/-1.82 mm/y” according to the report. The high tide is about 5 feet.

Umm…. The sea level in Santa Barbara is doing something…

Californians have an odd fascination with fixing problems they don’t have.

Even PA, because of groundwater depletion, thinks the period should have shown an acceleration.

As far as the global sea level… I’m in wait and see mode. There are too many moving parts. Till about 2050 I would expect it to accelerate – then we start running out of fossil groundwater and it may slow to the 20th century average.

If there isn’t an acceleration then either the ice sheet melting or/and steric warming are decreasing. If the satellite and tidal gauge data converge it is the ice sheets, if they don’t, it is steric.

If the warmers are right the sea level is going to take off like a banshee. But to get to 1 meter in 2100 (vs 1900) is going to take an acceleration of about 0.138 mm/y2. That is a substantial increase.


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Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by Jim D

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The ecomodernist manifesto highlights the correct things, like
“A good Anthropocene demands that humans use their growing social, economic, and technological powers to make life better for people, stabilize the climate, and protect the natural world.”
They even talk about mitigation and decarbonization. Having said that a “good” Anthropocene demands climate stabilization, they go on to say how difficult this will be, and are hinting at settling for a state that is less than “good”. My interpretation would be that a “better” Anthropocene is achieved with better mitigation. They have the right priority, but in the end are too pessimistic even about achieving the “good” state that they hope for, let alone “great”. Climate stabilization is possible, not tomorrow, but in the 50-year timeframe and any path towards this should be encouraged.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by Gary Wescom

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Nope, the reason Democracy works is because the losers are left alive.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by Horst Graben (@Graben_Horst)

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Sum call it a Kaiser Blade uuhhuum

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by genghiscunn

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Theodicy? Idiocy is what comes to mind when I see the name “Clive Hamilton.” Revkin notes that Hamilton’s representations have “contributed to widespread resignation and cynicism.” Par for the course with Clive, unfortunately.

(I’ll suspend my usual courtesy for Clive.)

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by ristvan

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DH, read my ID example in published ebook The Arts of Truth. Then get back, if you can. The example discusses the acuite eye, the most ‘powerful’ example of ID ever offered. BS. On many levels.

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Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by justinwonder

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I love the smell of agribusiness in the morning…it smells like…breakfast!

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Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by ristvan

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She is referring to leaving Atlanta (GT) for their place in the southern North Carolina mountains, no different than we want to leave south Florida for my significant other’s 2.5 acre 3 bedroom ‘cabin’ in the north Georgia mountains near the Toccoa river (complete with many black bears) or (colder winters) my beloved Wisconsin Uplands dairy farm near the W river near Spring Green (eagles, walleye, Taleisin) and class four trout streams.
Rugged, go for the Wisconsin farm. No cell phone service. Heat with wood to avoid a fortune on propane (about 6 full cords/year when we are there full time). Lots of milk and cheese, beef, deer, and wild turkey,( plus we run about 40 feeder hogs in the third barn on a 9 month rotation, so half a hog is a nice annual ‘rent’). Summer put up garden veggies (we found blanch and freeze better than canning, except for fruits like our apples, pears, grapes, and blackberries). Snowmobiles and snowshoes/xcountry skies in winter. Morel mushrooms in the spring (bringing $80/# fresh in Chicago!). Coyotes, even random wandering grey wolf families year round for company. (Night howls are very different.) An occaisional black bear rambles through, bothering our saddle horses. Plus lots of dairy farm work 24/7. A different perspective than Naomi Oreskes or James Hansen has. More down to earth. Regards.

Comment on Eco – (post) modernism by Jeff Norman

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“Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”

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