Long view of historical data can be so inconvenient No
wonder in Orwell’s Oceana at the Ministry of Truth the
records are shredded down the memory hole so that
myth might prevail. Of course there’s another against
-the-records alternative, life with no record: ‘Let’s clean
-slate inter a fuchur without regret, without memory.’
Say … nothing ter compare to, as though new-born,
and jest as unaware!
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by beththeserf
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by beththeserf
Label lost in transit. That’s a map of Spanish Armada
ships sunk in stormy weather off the Irish Coast.
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by climatereason
mosomoso
I don’t specifically recall ‘faith’ but I do vividly remember Aberfan as many of my relatives come from the Welsh coal mining valleys.
I do remember this in 1986;
‘On 25 to 26 August 1986 the remnants of Hurricane Charley brought strong winds and heavy rain, with some flooding and damage to boats in west Wales.’
We were camping at the time in a farmers field in North Wales and heard the forecast so secured everything down and sat it out for two days occasionally tying more ropes from tent to car and digging ditches inside the tent to drain water away.
We emerged after two turbulent days and nights to pay the farmer who looked at us astonished as he thought everyone had evacuated.
tonyb
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Jim Hunt
Blimey. I go to bed and look what happens!
As Eddie’s image makes clear, that’s the area where “easternmost” North Atlantic tropical cyclones form. As you say, it’s interesting. It’s also interesting (to me at least) that Ana became a fairly westerly tropical storm on May 9th this year:
http://econnexus.org/early-start-to-2015-atlantic-hurricane-season/
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Peter Davies
Beth +1 for going back to the future!
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Jim Hunt
“Focusing on extreme weather is pretty much a silly exercise for both sides.”
Dame Julia Slingo of the once Great British Met Office would seem to disagree with you Steven?
http://econnexus.org/climate-change-the-latest-evidence-and-implications/
“The other thing that comes through time and time again in the discussions is that it’s not about the global mean temperature any more, that we need to shape the climate change message much more about ‘what does it mean for me, regionally and locally’, and that’s really around extreme or high impact weather”
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by beththeserf
Thx, Pierre. )
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by climatereason
Jim Hunt
Mosh has a blind spot on historical events. Looking at extreme events of the past is essential planning to cope with what might happen in the future
“‘The construction of regionally specific climatic histories and historical extreme weather events, and investigations of the memories of and responses to these events, must form a crucial component of any research that seeks to understand the nature of events that might take place in the future. These histories are also important if we are to be able to assess how different communities in different contexts might be affected by, comprehend and respond to future events. The purpose of the proposed project, therefore, is to examine the nature, timing and socio-economic and cultural consequences of, and responses to, climatic extremes in the UK. This will be achieved through a series of case study-based investigations across the UK and will cover an extended period between 1700 and the present. This study will employ a combination of archival investigation and oral history approaches in order to construct episodes of extreme weather and to explore whether and how these events affected the lives of local people and became inscribed into the cultural fabric and social memory of selected local communities within the case study regions. We will also explore how the recording of these events has changed overtime and is still changing.
http://gtr.rcuk.ac.uk/project/CC66F416-E9CA-4D3A-95B9-748267ADCDC9
Are we near neighbours? I was at the Met Office/Exeter Uni event last year as well. I thought the panel were pretty pedestrian with poor presentation skills and some terrible graphics (although I don’t doubt their knowledge)
However, I thought Catherine Mitchell was pretty good and feisty and obviously hit the right note with the student audience particularly.
tonyb
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Jim Hunt
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Jim Hunt
We’ve had this conversation before Tony! We are indeed near neighbours. As a “silver” surfer I take great interest in tracking hurricanes across the North Atlantic.
Before moving to the West Country I used to live just west of Cardiff. My guitar teacher attended Pantglas Junior School at the time it became buried:
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Andy May
Considering the level of some of the discourse we see, some children are bound to be present!
Comment on Climate Change, Epistemic Trust, and Expert Trustworthiness by Punksta
It’s an inherently biased system, yes.
Just follow the money. No amount of pretending can change that the funder of climate science has a vested interest in the outcome. And hence that it would take some kind of miraculous conspiracy (of integrity) for this to NOT effect the findings in an alarmist direction.
Do most climate scientists recognise this? Hard to tell. Most probably don’t think too much about it. The funding process has selected them for suitability, they just get on with it.
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Bad Andrew
“Andrew, do you think we will never find out whether the IPCC position is correct?”
You didn’t answer my question, and I don’t give a rat’s rear end about what the IPCC position is.
Andrew
Comment on Assessments, meta-analyses, discussion and peer review by Obama Is Ignoring the Science on Climate Change - Rage and War
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Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Willard
> If you quote what he actually has written and the claims, assertions, propositions that he was responding to, I think you’ll find that he consistently argues against extreme or absolutist claims.
Then it would be easy to show. Go for it. Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything.
Comment on The conceits of consensus by hockeyschtick
“Can you either correct or affirm the following:
1. Collisions delay photon emission”
No. CO2 can either transfer quanta of energy via radiation of a photon, or transfer that same quanta of energy to e.g. N2/O2 kinetic energy via a collision.
Can’t have it both ways, and in the troposphere, CO2 is ~100X more likely to transfer that quantum energy via collisions, accelerating convective cooling, because collisions are 100X more frequent due to the higher density.
“2. Fewer collisions occur at low density, low temp. altitudes.”
Correct, above P=0.1 bar tropopause, photon emission takes over from convection since the atmosphere is too thin above P> milliseconds”
Sure, but the difference is convection is far more efficient at least 10X at moving massive amounts of heat than those very-low-energy-frequency 15um CO2 photons, so it more than makes up for the fact that it’s much slower than speed of light by factor of ~10X.
Comment on The conceits of consensus by hockeyschtick
“so it more than makes up for the fact that it’s much slower than speed of light by factor of ~10X.” is misleading so let me reword it:
“so it more than makes up for the fact that it’s much slower than speed of light, and transfers ~10X more heat than does radiation in the troposphere.”
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by timg56
I don’t know willard. Why don’t you tell me? You’re the all knowing twit here.
Gimme a T, gimme a W, give us a break from willard the twit.
Comment on Hurricanes and global warming: 10 years post Katrina by Don Monfort
Mosher must be bored with juggling the temp data. He has stooped to spending significant time and effort to nitpick TonyB. There are far more deserving targets, Steven. Hockeypuck is running loose all over the place. What say you, willy willy? You seem to have become Mosher’s head cheerleader? Things slow over on kenny’s lonely blog?
Comment on The conceits of consensus by rishrac
If you really wanted some twisted numbers look at co2 levels in relation to the amount that is released. Allegedly co2 stays in the atmosphere hundreds of years. Yet with ever increasing amounts, nearly half is disappearing. ( I have closer to 70%). Which in any one year dwarfs the release of any year in the 1950s. Yet they show a rise in co2 levels during that time. Additionally, if there is any surprise the rise of co2 levels is connected with solar cycles AND cosmic ray fluxes. You would think that today’s co2 output would be ever higher in the ppm year over year. Since 1998 no year has been higher in the number of molecules increased. Source. NOAA.