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Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Willard

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> I understand your point his wording/misunderstanding statement on page 87 of a what?

I’m not sure I understand your question, Sir.

Perhaps there’s no need to clarify it, since the matter is quite simple. You opined twice about what Alan “does not say” and I showed twice what Alan does indeed say. Before minimizing what Alan does indeed say, it might be nice if you could acknowledge what Alan did indeed say.

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Since you mention that Alan gave his review for free, may I ask you why don’t you do the same with your ebooks? It’s not as if you really needed the money.


Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Willard

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Have you read Alan's book in full before calling it a <em>tour de force</em>, Judy?

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Danley Wolfe

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@nickels… this response may not be below your question, I had trouble doing that. No that is my own observation not from a reference.

Comment on Week in review: energy and policy edition by sciguy54

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And VW sold these diesel vehicles as being “green” despite it being obvious to any engineer directly involved that they were not. And the US EPA bought it hook line and sinker for six years.

“Volkswagen has now admitted that it intentionally installed software programmed to switch engines to a cleaner mode during official emissions testing. The software then switches off again, enabling cars to drive more powerfully on the road while emitting as much as 40 times the legal pollution limit.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/21/vw-rocked-by-emissions-scandal-as-prosecutors-come-calling/?intcmp=hplnws

This was not caught by the Fed, but by California regulators.

The moral of this story? Just because a solution is offered under the guise of being “green” does not make it so. The devil is in the details. Federal officials can be duped, or worse yet intentionally obscure realities or even actively set out to do the duping. That goes for autos, solar cells, wind turbines, or any other technology.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Da leggere, ma non in un giorno solo | Climatemonitor

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[…] ora ho letto solo la recensione, anche piuttosto corposa, che Judith Curry gli ha dedicato sul suo blog. Con questo titolo: “Dubbi e certezze sulla storia del […]

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Dick Newell

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Someone needs to proof read the book, it is littered with typos, some of which confuse the meaning. But otherwise, a good read.

Comment on RICO! by Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Climate Science? | Michigan Standard

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[…] Curry quotes an email her colleague Peter Webster sent to one of the letter’s signatories: You have signed the death warrant for science. Maybe not a death warrant, but certainly a new low in politicizing […]

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by climatereason

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Read harder as Mosh might say. Slocum (and much of the establishment of the time) considered it was refuted (in full or in part) and his writing style is certainly elegant and clear compared to much of todays scientific output.

Elsewhere you say;

‘When you do, please take time to take back your “elegantly refuted” instead of going silent like you did earlier and elswhere in the thread’

Where do you mean? Perhaps I had gone to bed. If so, sorry about sleeping.

tonyb


Comment on RICO! by Jim D

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Exxon seemed pretty sure and they documented it well too. Hence the ICN articles that researched what they knew and when and who they told. They realized very early that if the seriousness of the effect on climate became more widely known, fossil fuels would be limited below the resource levels in the future, and it was only a matter of time before policies would be enacted. This was well before Hansen’s 1988 warning to congress.

Comment on Week in review: energy and policy edition by Jim D

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For me, the message is that it is a constant competition between industries trying to make profits at the expense of the environment, and regulations imposed by the governments. Some industries will do anything to bypass what the science has deemed healthier for everyone.

Comment on RICO! by Punksta

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Heck, if anyone needs their ass RICO’d, it’s the 97% and IPCC lot.

But to get the ball rolling, where better to start than Mann, Jones and the other Climategaters, along with Muir Russell and all the other convenors of the official Climategate coverups.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by davideisenstadt

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Geez Steve, why didn’t you start your shower of feces with this comment?

“I try to stick to what I have experience in. I will put it this way
anyone who titles the chapter “Can we measure global temperature?” has already lost.

1. All approaches estimate
2. we all estimate an INDEX

if you can’t bother to get the basics right then you cant have a tour de force..”

So Steve, your answer to the question posed in chapter 4’s title would be:
“No”?
Why not just write that?

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by climatereason

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Not surreal Willard. More like squirrel. You appear to be breeding flocks of them.

Btw surely I was agreeing with you about the changing by hand? Clearly that is what was written.

Tonyb

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Jay Turberville

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“When is the last time the temperature increased by .8C in such a short period of time?”

Nobody knows. Apparently we can’t even be sure about the last 18 years as witnessed by the re-jiggering of the data that is currently going on in an attempt to resolve/eliminate/explain the current warming hiatus.

It is hard enough getting modern instrumented measurements correct. Why would anybody have much confidence in historical proxy data?

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by curryja

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Actually, chapter 4 is arguably the least interesting chapter in the book (also the extreme events chapter wasn’t that interesting), unfortunate that people are focusing only on this chapter. Take a look at the other chapters please, some of them are gems! No more comments on Chapter 4, please.


Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by scotts4sf

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I couldn’t get the link on his education

See also Longhurst’s biosketch at Elsevier

to work.

I found him on google at the NOAA link technical memo ;Sep 1989 Southwest Fisheries Center at Scripps; The First 25 Years. His PhD was from Bedford College University of London and D.Sc University of London

If anyone is interested in his educational background.

Thanks to him and to Dr Curry for the interesting information.
Scott

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by matthewrmarler

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Steven Mosher: Example. A user pointed out a buggy station.
We fixed the code. 600 stations were effected.

That was you. the author was not describing BEST.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by climatereason

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jimeichstedt

well said. There are some extraordinary diversionary sub threads developing here. Lets concentrate on the book. Yes, we seem to have done Chapter 4 to death.

I will carry on reading beyond it for the rest of the evening. I hope Judith will let this post run a little longer but it would be nice to have the author chip in.

tonyb

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Willard

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> More like squirrel. You appear to be breeding flocks of them.

You appear to have a very poor understanding of that concept, TonyB. Playing squirrels is a way to introduce extraneous informations to evade a particular commitment.

To take a recent example not far from here, your whole comment to JCH is a big fat squirrel. You claimed that Calendar’s conjecture has been “elegantly refuted here by Giles Slocum in 1955”. When you read the conclusion to Slocum 1955, we see that this claim is false. Now, instead of acknowledging this, you went from “read harder” to doubling down with “Slocum considered it was refuted” (a fantastic claim to make when facing a quote where Slocum says exactly that it was not!) to “but the scientific establishment” and now to “but the met office”.

While you threw all these squirrels around, I simply kept repeating that your claim that Calendar’s conjecture has been elegantly refuted by Slocum 1955 is false.

And that notwithstanding all the “sorry I can’t hear you” and other kinds of passive resistance, like “you’re playing games while I’m a very serious person,” paraphrasing of course your cheap ad hom.

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> [S]urely I was agreeing with you about the changing by hand?

The best way to agree with what has been quoted earlier would have been to say “I agree with was has been quoted earlier” and then point to it. To quote it again like it’s some kind of discovery does not sound like the agreement speech act.

If you want to agree with something relevant, try to acknowledge that the Moshpit linked to the correct Kimberley station, contrary to what you implied earlier. That, at least, won’t be squirrel territory.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by climatereason

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Willard

I agreed with you and mosh against rud about the ‘by hand’ item. How on earth does that warrant ‘go team!’

I never at any time said that mosh did not link to the correct Kimberley. What sort of new diversion is this?. I commented that the data for Kimberley was likely compromised for the reasons I stated.

I merely said that I assumed we were talking about the south African version because after reading chapter 4 I spent some time researching Kimberly and came across quite a few Canadian references. Consequently I wasn’t 100 per cent certain we were discussing The south African one and had no intention of going back in again to read the chapter as it took a long time to download and then locate the right place.so to ensure we were all talking about the same place I made a passing comment.

Please cite the cheap ad Homs. I can’t see any. You read way too much into the simplest comment.

Tonyb

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