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Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Wagathon

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It would be funny if someone dipped a withered limb into that pool of liquid CO2 and discovered it was the veritable fountain of youth.


Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Wagathon

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More climate hucksterism.

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by jddohio

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Mosher: “But we do know that there is no science that suggests GOOD consequences for increased acidity.
5. Since there is no upside and a possible downside, it makes
sense to curtail emisssions until the science is settled.”

Your analysis is overly simplistic and narrow. There is an upside to the increased CO2 which could cause increased acidity. Increased use of fossil fuels, which would increase emissions of CO2, almost certainly would reduce energy poverty deaths, which were calculated to be about 2,500 in the UK about 4 years ago. Thus, there is a non-speculative benefit of increased use of fossil fuels to be balanced against the speculative negative effects of CO2 with respect to acidification.

JD

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Joseph

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<blockquote>Is there an issue with acidification? Probably, depending on rate of change. Is it catastrophic? Probably not. </blockquote> How many areas of climate science are you an expert in, Rud?

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by nabilswedan

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“Every gas in this table is perfectly transparent to light, that is to say, all waves within the limits of the visible spectrum pass through it without obstruction”

We know today that this is not the case. All gases absorb solar radiation at different rates.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by nabilswedan

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“Every gas in this table is perfectly transparent to light, that is to say, all waves within the limits of the visible spectrum pass through it without obstruction”

We know today that this is not the case. All gases absorb solar radiation at different rates.

Comment on RICO! by Heksenjacht tegen klimaatsceptici - Climategate.nl

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[…] Lees verder hier. […]

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by edbarbar

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“epigenetic changes in gene expression would appear to be responsible for this result.”

If correct, this indicates a reason for an epigenetic mechanism, perhaps on account of rapid changes that occur frequently on an evolutionary scale, in oceanic pH.

Is there the paleo equivalent to pH levels for oceans? I can’t find one offhand. I don’t want to read a study by activist scientists, though.


Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Steven Mosher

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you missed the entire point.

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Steven Mosher

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hehe… story of my lief…life

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Steven Mosher

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“You think that filling in cells with imaginary numbers in temperature sets a la Cowtan and Way is different somehow in logic?
Should not one suspend belief when no measurement exist?”

There is no such thing as filling the cells with imaginary numbers.
Not filling the cells is mathematically the same as imputing the global average. Not filling is demonstrably WRONG
testable and demonstrably wrong.

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by Steven Mosher

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“He may have reasons to doubt, of which you are unaware. ”

he may have unicorns, yes.

I have reasons to doubt his doubt of which you are unaware.

I suggest you dip your toe into his other writings..

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by climatereason

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There is a statue to Horace in Chamonix.

There is also Horace’s son Nicolas who was a chemist and worked on plant photosynthesis

http://www.cropsreview.com/de-saussure.html

He took some of the early readings of the fraction of atmospheric co2

tonyb

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by climatereason

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AK said

‘So why not gather all our waste up in big containers, with enough rocks to make it stay on the bottom, and dump it into some ocean trench with a good rate of sedimentation.’

I would pay good money for a seat in the room as you tried to pitch that to Greenpeace. :)

tonyb

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Alan Longhurst

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Errata, typos.

As “oldfossil” remarks, there are too many – to my considerable embarrassment. My fault, obviously, but the problem is that the text has been on the stocks much too long, evolving progressively as I explored the literature over the last 3 years or so. I am currently going very, very carefully over a print-out and, when done, I will ask Judy to re-post it. Later, I shall also have some copies printed as v cheap paperbacks for distribution to anybody who wants them.

Alan


Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by Alan Longhurst

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nhill

I’m glad someone picked up the point that there will always be climate surprises in store for us, no matter what we do about CO2: I’m surprised that I have not seen anywhere the obvious conclusion stated – that we are evolving our way of life as if the climate was stable and unchanging, and whichever way it goes in the coming century, we – or rather some of you – ware going to be very uncomfortable. The more complex our society becomes, the more vulnerable it is to unforeseen climate conditions.

Time someone wrote an essay on the problem, isnt it?

Alan

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by AK

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I would pay good money for a seat in the room as you tried to pitch that to Greenpeace. :)

Watermelons like Greenpeace are the enemy. They’re the ones using “environmental” concerns as a stalking horse for their socialist, anti-Western, anti-capitalist agenda.

Of course they’d hate anything that actually might solve the problem. Once it’s solved, it’s not there to rationalize their socialist agenda.

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by beththeserf

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The lobster’s
tale told by
a mock
turtle
is a
sad
one.

Comment on Ocean acidification discussion thread by beththeserf

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Ffft, I’ll add
anuther
bend via
Lewis
C.

Like the mouse’s
tale, a lobster’s
tale told by
a mock
turtle,
is a
sad
one.

( It’s sich a com-pluh-ca-ted gai -eh-aime.

Comment on New book: Doubt and Certainty in Climate Science by angech2014

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“What’s it tell you when you can start with 60 samples and get
one time series… then add 300 and get the same,,, then add
3000 and get the same…. then add 30000 and get the same?
whats that tell you about sampling?”

Simple Steven, you are intelligent, it says the sites match perfectly.
Why state the above and then write rubbish like “the sites do not match perfectly”
How can you, as an intelligent scientist do this?
If sites are, as Nick Stokes glowingly asserts
[“The public expects that people who actually know what they are doing will give the best estimate they can of global temperature. And they do. That involves detecting and correcting inhomogeneities.”]
totally adjusted to remove discrepancies [ inhomogeneities to us , right]
and every sample you can take agrees in lockstep as you state above ,then the sites must match perfectly, Zeke would not leave any inhomogeneities in, would he?

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