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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by JCH

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One is about OHC, which includes SST; one is about surface air temperature, which includes SSTs. I do not know what the would have to disagree about unless one or the other saw some sort of error in the others work. I doesn’t look like Karl was out in time for her to see it; and it doesn’t look like Nieves was out in time for him to see it.


Comment on Climate closure (?) by russellseitz

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“Read the literature and the IPCC. There are INDIRECT effects of solar on climate.”

Ball in your court Judy. You can shout all you want at the referee , but having examined the data base playback, the IPCC has ruled that , no surprise, the indirect effects are even more trivial than the third decimal place variations in the solar flux.

As to the abyssal rollover , mere diffusion and ( look it up) mass transport and hence heat mixing by biological activity in the oceans operate over kilometers on decadal scales , except in regions with exotically steep halo- and thermoclines like the Chain Deep.

Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by popesclimatetheory

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That CO2 is good is well known. It makes green stuff grow better while making better use of available water. This is all supported with real data.

It is only the bad effects from CO2 that have not been supported with real data. The bad only comes from flawed climate models and flawed climate theory. Actual data disagrees.

CO2 at 260 or 280 or 400 or 600 or even more than 1000 parts per million are tiny for something that controls earth temperature. It is wonderful that small amount can make our green things grow. Be thankful and give up the CO2 alarmist madness.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Danny Thomas

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JCH,
I get that they crossed and likely were not seen by each other, but the issue I have with Karl is the adjustment of the more contemporary to fit the less contemporary methodology.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/06/10/climate-scientists-criticize-government-paper-that-erases-pause-in-warming.html (I’m not a Fox fan, but just providing the link).

and
http://judithcurry.com/2015/06/04/has-noaa-busted-the-pause-in-global-warming/

I’m still learning (hope we all are), but find discomfort with why we cannot trust the more up to date technology.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Danny Thomas

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JCH,
Specifics (from the Fox article) which lead to discomfort:”The ARGO buoy data do not show much warming in surface temperature since they were introduced in 2003. But Karl’s team left them out of their analysis, saying that they have multiple issues, including lack of measurements near the Arctic.

In an email, Karl told FoxNews.com that the ARGO buoy readings may be added to his data “if scientific methods can be found to line up these two types of temperatures together … (of course after correcting the systematic offsets) … This is part of the cumulative and progressive scientific process.”

Karl’s study also clashes with satellite measurements. Since 1979, NOAA satellites have estimated the temperature of Earth’s atmosphere. They show almost no warming in recent years and closely match the surface data before Karl’s adjustments.”

Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by popesclimatetheory

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They are funding research into decarbonized technologies because that is where the money is, not because it is the right thing to do. Skeptics will win because skeptics always win. Consensus has always been wrong.

Consensus always has one idea that is always wrong.
Skeptics have many ideas, one always, sooner or later, is right.

Comment on Climate closure (?) by russellseitz

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Can Climate reason please show us the textbook in which the words "roman Warm Period appeared in his curriculum ? He clearly didn't do his Latin homework, asTacitus declared Britannia's climate “objectionable”, and unsuitable for growing vines, suggesting that unlike today , establishing vines was problematic- an abundance of amphorae attest archaeologically to a roaring cross-channel wine trade from Republican times to the fall of the Empire. Since today even Scotland is producing wine, it might be more accurate to speak of the 'Roman Cooler Than Now Period.' <a href="http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2015/06/mark-steyn-and-grapes-of-wrath.html" rel="nofollow"><b>That goes double for its Medieval equivalent.</b></a>

Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by popesclimatetheory

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Skeptics never dangle, our 3% outnumber the 97% by orders of magnitude.


Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by Stanton Brown

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Progressives feeling good on the dead bodies of the poor and elderly.

After a century, one might wonder why the lesson hasn’t been learned.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by JCH

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<a href="http://judithcurry.com/2015/06/04/has-noaa-busted-the-pause-in-global-warming/#comment-708854" rel="nofollow">Whether you adjust the ships or the bouys doesnt matter.</a> As for the satellites, I have asked that Pete Maverick, aka "Tom Cruise", be allowed to pilot them. That way he can buzz some airport towers with the satellites and make some observations of the temperature of the surface of the earth. Of course, airports are controversial.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by michael hart (@michael97087462)

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Oh, Christ.
Now Steven Mosher and his grant-lampreys are going to build us the synthetic tree.

David Springer, where are you when I need you?
My crude insults may not pass Judith Curry’s (fairly generous) moderation standards. I need someone to do it for me.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by michael hart (@michael97087462)

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It’s difficult to know where to begin with someone who posts a video of a professor who has re-invented the toilet brush.

I’ll try.
Steven Mosher, he needs to show a new way of making toilet brushes, not a new use for them.

Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by popesclimatetheory

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industry pressures could be dictating the focus of scientific research

Whatever industry wants scientific research to be focused on is more likely right than whatever the government wants the research to be focused on.

Comment on Hypocrisy at universities over oil company funding/divestment by popesclimatetheory

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We want honest answers. Industry is more likely to look for right answers than the alarmist government.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by michael hart (@michael97087462)

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wrong place again, but I’m not ashamed of it.


Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by michael hart (@michael97087462)

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It’s difficult to know where to begin with someone who posts a video of a professor who has re-invented the toilet brush.

I’ll try.
Steven Mosher, he needs to show a new way of making toilet brushes, not a new use for them.

Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Danny Thomas

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JCH,
It does if the results are (even in Karl’s word) not inclusive of the most current technology which one would presume to be more accurate.

You can choose to ‘believe’ what you chose to believe. My tendency is to rely on the more current technology.

Comment on Climate closure (?) by hockeyschtick

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Seitz: “IPCC has ruled that , no surprise, the indirect effects are even more trivial than the third decimal place variations in the solar flux.”

False, the IPCC said so such thing. Provide a direct quote and link to AR5 supporting your claptrap, Seitz. And, since when is the IPCC the climate “ruler” according to you?

The IPCC is highly biased and selective in the literature it decides to include and exclude, including over 100 solar amplification mechanisms described in the peer-reviewed literature:

hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/search?q=solar+amplification+mechanism

And literally thousands of peer-reviewed papers linking solar activity to climate change over short, intermediate, and long-term timescales.

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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by JCH

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The chief scientist at Remote Sensing Systems, RSS, has stated he considers the thermometer series to be more accurate at estimating the surface air temperature.

I think it is pretty far out to believe one can attack Karl with satellites.

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