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Comment on JC op ed: the politics surrounding global temperature data by ganja gig 2011
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by Knute
Sci Guy
Could you fill the in the blanks ?
Both Britain and Germany have served as pilot nations for windmills and solar alternatives. The average rate for power in Germany has increased ____ %, while the average rate for Britain ____ %.
If numbers cant be teased out the larger circular accounting, are you aware of a smaller regional area that can serve as a pilot ?
Do you have a cite ?
I’m developing a top ten list of CAGW facts
1. No temp change in 18 years despite an increase in CO2.
2. Extreme weather events fall within the historical norm
etc.
Trying to develop one for alt energy costs to consumer.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by Knute
Perhaps, but they should start with a revisiting of the US Supreme Court decision that to paraphrase …. the government has the legal rite to regulate CO2 because too much of it can threaten the world.
Totally bogus.
Not Daubert tested
And NGOs colluded in the process.
Not cool.
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Comment on Lukewarming by richardswarthout
Mosher
“They discover ( as we did in 2008) that there are like minded people. The identity pre existed the application of the label”
I do not disagree with that statement. A new consensus informally emerges and a name must be given to the group. Why?
Also, is this new consensus-based finding more scientifically significant than the consensus-based findings of the IPCC reports?
Richard
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by ristvan
Moso, a plus 10 on the gas to Ivanpah thing. You are definitely up to speed. Shame that California regulators are not.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by Knute
“NOAA have acted illegally by refusing a subpoena, that NASA routinely cool the past”
First rule of any engagement based on data … show the raw data or prepare to be ridiculed and mocked into oblivion.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by ristvan
SS, lets note there was no reply. Because there can be none, since your cited facts are all true.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by cerescokid
I know it’s stressful trying to live up to the expectations of the Pee wee Herman lookalikes McKibben and Nye, but at some point you will have to get off the Gerber gravy train and start thinking for yourself. The thermosteric component of SLR has been overstated and the gw contribution understated since it has gone from a net negative to an ever increasing positive. These kinds of changes are remarkably easy as evidenced by the study on the Antarctic last week contradicting the IPCC .27 mm/yr supposedly from the Antarctic to zip. All of a sudden the cataclysmic SLR from down under vanishes. Poof. Gone in an instant. Easy come easy go.
So let’s just change the budget for SLR and add a few mm from gw and reduce the thermosteric part and gone is Trenberth’s missing heat. Just like that a few mysteries have been solved. Colombo would be proud.
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Comment on Lukewarming by Peter Lang
Excellent, informative comment. Thanks.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by justinwonder
Knute,
Opensecrets is a great website.
Did you know that the biggest contributors to political campaigns are unions and left wing orgs and not corporations? Truly amazing and surprising!
Check it out …
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by Knute
What are your favorite top ten facts that support your skeptical position concerning CAGW ?
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by aaron
What would be really fun is if this were to uncover support for alarmism or at least decision to not counter it to boost subsidies for their alt energy development and promote regulations that prevent competition.
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Comment on Lukewarming by Peter Davies
Natural disasters would probably include extremes of weather Faustino but I agree that climate change would generally manifest itself in a much more gradual way and would impact on vulnerable regions, rather than globally.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by Bob Greene
Gary, you need to take a bit longer look at history. Big tobacco contributing to Republicans would have been a waste of money for decades. Take a look at tobacco states like North Carolina and Virginia. Republicans didn’t control much of anything from Reconstruction until recently. North Carolina has had 4 Republican governors since Reconstruction. “Big tobacco” was quite an industry. It supported small farms,large farms, industry, provided jobs and livelihood for a high percentage of the tobacco states. Take a look at the major colleges in North Carolina like Duke, NC State and Wake Forest. Hell, Wake Forest moved from Wake Forest, NC, to Winston Salem because of contributions from Reynolds (tobacco) family. Want to guess how the Duke family had enough money to get Trinity College to change it’s name? Look at the growth and economy of Richmond, VA, from “big tobacco.”
Tobacco growers and companies contributed money to those in political charge. In the case of NC and VA, until recently the Democrats were in charge and got the “big tobacco” money. Tobacco money was contributed to state ag schools. The (democrat) legislature voted funds for tobacco ag research. It was the major cash crop and industry in my state. You could support your family with the few acres of tobacco allotment you got from your 100 acre farm.
I might have a bit of a different from what seems to be the tobacco urban legend of today. My family were tobacco growers for generations. I started working in tobacco at 5 years old (made $0.25/day, big money!) and worked in tobacco until I went to college. My hometown billed itself as the world’s largest tobacco market for decades ($1 billion in sales).
Big tobacco’s contribution to Republicans? I love the way the Dems keep rewriting history and people keep believing them. Remember the “Solid South”? It was a term used for states that voted reliably Democrat every year for a century.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by mosomoso
Rud, we have earnest South Australia, home of good intentions, to compete with California in pottiness. Once something of an industrial power, it has lately achieved backwater status and lays claim to the world’s most expensive electricity (though I haven’t checked regional prices in Denmark and Germany today to confirm the claim). Some have even opined that there may be a connection between “backwater” and “world’s most expensive electricity”…but we have economic authorities like (Murdoch’s!) Business Spectator to explain away all such rash suspicions.
South Australia’s crippling wind industry is supported by Victoria’s brown coal (massively) and its domestic 1,280MW of gas-steam capacity. When that’s not enough, the state has recourse to a fleet of costly open cycle gas turbines and diesel generators. The owners of these back-ups won’t even get out of bed to turn then on unless the dispatch price hits $300 per MWh. If local coal gen and Victorian coal gen purchases could be phased out entirely there is just no limit to how much money one could make selling gas and diesel to SA. Unless you count beggary as a limit.
Of course, if the wind blows right and some power goes east to Victoria you will not hear the end of Big Wind’s brief triumph. Because in these green times it’s all about the wording and the seeming and the gotcha.
Undoubtedly, a South Australian politician is an oil man’s favourite vegetable.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by John Carpenter
Of course water is a by product of combustion as well
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Comment on Hiatus controversy: show me the data by catweazle666
Steven Mosher: “Imagine this…”
And then you woke up…
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by ItsStillTooColdInCanada
My issue is with these ostensibly broad-minded people drawing a boundary at the exhaust pipe and pretending as though nothing favourable occurred because of combustion. That’s torturing logic, and highlights a fundamental difference between fossil fuel and tobacco.
And just what is it that companies should have been doing differently? Cautioning farmers against using their diesel-powered tractors to grow the food that has been feeding millions upon millions of city dwellers?
Should every phone include a mandatory warning from the Surgeon-General that dialling 911 to call a fossil-fuelled ambulance, fire truck, or police car could cause adverse health outcomes to 7 billion people?
Was leaving my natural gas furnace turned on when it was -45C outside on a dark and windless night some kind of crime against humanity? Because the alternative was death.
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Comment on Accountability for Climate Change Damages: Is Fossil Fuel Like Tobacco? by PA
Jim D | November 8, 2015 at 6:25 pm | Reply
A lot of Republicans are denying the science that is accepted generally by everyone else.
Really? Do tell.
1. CO2 forcing is 0.2 W/m2 for 22 PPM. That is the measured value at two sites over 10 years at the top and bottom of the temperate range. This is far below the IPCC forcing range and is the defacto value for GHG forcing.
2. Given the Chinese revelations (global emissions are actually 10.8 GT/Y), only 38% of emissions are going into the atmosphere. 500 PPM might attainable if we work fast but may already be out of reach with existing fuel supplies.
3. The fastest we can expect to hit 500 PPM is 50 years, and that assumes an unrealistic 3%/year emissions increase.
4. The ” looming planetary “catastrophe” claims are sufficiently divorced from reality to be a lie or signs of mental illness or defect.
5. Even if you manage to turn the expected 0.2°C increase into 2.5° (using 2+2=13 eco/regressive logic) there is only “low confidence” that it is a problem.
The science is 22 PPM = 0.2 W/m2. Any other claim is a lie.
The claims of more than 500 PPM are not lies – they are either delusional fantasies, drastic misinformation, or due to mental illness or defect.
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Comment on Week in review – energy and policy edition by beththeserf
TThx JW.
Hey take a look at top 3 donors and amounts to Demo/Libs.
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To Democrats /Libs:
1 Service Employees International Union – $222,520,804
2 ActBlue – $193,985,073
3 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees –
$93,739,954
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