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Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by RiHo08

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Mark

Thank you for your response.

Further: “The pipeline project has been affected by persistent charges and fears about corruption and the diversion of revenues—ostensibly intended for poverty reduction—towards arms purchases…”

The doubling of the arms budget from those funds set aside to provide humanitarian service did not mean that those arms funds were going to the purchase of weapons or weapon systems, rather, to pay the wages of soldiers so they won’t mutiny. Sophisticated weaponry require people who can use it. During the cold war, one of the reasons why there were Cuban “volunteers” in Africa was to operate the Soviet equipment.

African leadership issues are more about acquiring and maintaining power requiring the tribal members of the military stay loyal to the regime. Leaders are more worried about the sergeant brother-in-law 3rd removed confiscating the soldiers wages and buying himself a Mercedes than providing clean water for villages. After all, villages have survived without clean water for thousands of years, and, more likely than not, they will continue to survive into the future without clean water.

Clean water and all sorts of humanitarian ideology is useful to sell outside sources to develop and fund another revenue stream to be pilfered.


Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Canman

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From the <i>Esquire</i> piece: <blockquote>"I have friends who have talked to McKibben privately about this, and he knows that nuclear has to be part of the solution," Stone says. "But he can't say it publicly. He says it will split the movement."</blockquote> Bill McKibben puts his own megalomania above actual solutions.

Comment on German Energiewende – Modern Miracle or Major Misstep by Peter Lang

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Peter Davies,

I’ve given up taking your comments seriously. I gave you the link to that analysis so you could follow the example, not asking for your critique because it would be of no value because you don’t understand what you are talking about. It’s already been critiqued, I fully understand the assumptions and limitations. You haven’t even looked at the one that compares the renewables scenarios. The point is, until you can do proper comparisons yourself, your chatter is not worth wasting time on. Picking away with irrelevant points is misleading other readers – that may be your intention, but I am not interested in that game. if you want to critique the paper, you should enter your own inputs, re run the analysis yourself and state how much difference it makes to the results. If you can’t do that you’re just blowing hot air. I know that updating the inputs to current year figures does not change the rankings. Furthermore, changing the AETA inputs to remove some of the renewables bias would make nuclear even cheaper compared with renewables. Every comparison that is done on a properly comparable basis shows that. I’ve given you stacks of references, Apparently you haven’t read them.

I also gave you links to CSIRO calculators and the more recent AETA model and data for calculating CSIRO. You haven’t mentioned them so I presume you haven’t tested your assertions on them either.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by popesclimatetheory

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Long in the Background, Population Becoming a Bigger Issue at Climate Change Discussions [link]

The doomsayers in every generation have told that we have reached a population tipping point, yet the next generation always has more people with a higher standard of living. There may be a limit, but the data indicates we are still rising toward an always increasing upper bound. We used to talk about all those poor people in China, now we go admire their new cities, better transportation, more energy for everyone, more and more coal fired power plants, etc. The standard of living in China is rising with the use of more fossil fuels. The standard of living in Germany is dropping with the use of less fossil fuels.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Joseph

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enviro-notsees against nuclear power, but it would “solve” “climate change.” This would put an end to the gravy train for a lot of prominent scientists and world-level grifters (aka UN politicians).

Sounds like the making of a conspiracy theory to me, Jim.
Wouldn’t other scientists who aren’t in it for the “gravy train” be in a better position to detect shoddy work on the part of these “prominent” scientists. After all even if they are in it for money or fame or both, they can also still produce quality work, right?

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Comment on German Energiewende – Modern Miracle or Major Misstep by Peter Lang

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Peter Davies,

I’ve given you many references showing that an electricity system with a large proportion of nuclear power would supply electricity at much lower cost and very much low CO2 abatement cost than a system with a large proportion of non-hydo renewables. Furthermore, the emissions intensity would be much lower at the same high proportion of nuclear or non-hydro renewables. Until you can show that these analyses are wrong and by how much the results are wrong in each case, please don’t expect me to take your comments seriously.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by angech2014

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” If for any 20 years, temperatures do not increase by more than 0.5 degrees the whole apparatus will be wrapped up.”
If the temp does not increase by more than 0.5 in the next 20 years it will be proof that Climate Change conferences work.


Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by jim2

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by jim2

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Well, sorry David, but I do believe the UN shouldn’t exist. Or at a very minimum, re-constrict its focus to conflict resolution. COPXX shouldn’t exist for sure. I’ll revisit COP21 once they have actually decided something because it can have (a probably adverse) effect on my life as a US citizen.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Stanton Brown

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No fair. You can’t compare the predictions of left-wing scientists to reality. Talk about micro-aggressions! Now their feelings will be hurt, their chances of raking in more millions in corrupt funding limited, and their shot at magazine covers reduced.

That’s just cruelty to dumb animals.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by -1=e^iπ

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A parabolic model has 3 parameters. The piecewise linear model has 4. The parabolic model is simpler.

Also, if we are somewhat close to the optimal global temperature and the damage function is analytical then the second order taylor approximation gives a parabolic approximation.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Stanton Brown

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David, if we note that the UN is the most corrupt institution in the world (obviously true), is that flaming? And if a corrupt institution hosts an event that is just a corrupt, is it permissible to note said corruption in assessing what goes on there? When dishonest and corrupt people engage in dishonest and corrupt negotiations one of whose purposes is to be used by a dishonest and corrupt president to bypass Congress and the will of the American people in gross violation of the Constitution, can we say that without ‘flaming’? Or are certain truths flames?

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Stanton Brown

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Don Monfort, sadly they are a lot less honest than Gruber.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by jungletrunks (@jungletrunks)

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My favorite part of the article was the disclosure that all the deniers were middle aged white men except one female. Is that a meme in the UK too? I always considered that a U.S. PCism. Are we now to believe if you’re a middle aged white climate denier guy that makes you a racist too, or that only racists are deniers? What’s the relevancy of the race makeup of the deniers? I had a good chuckle over that.


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Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by jungletrunks (@jungletrunks)

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Adults or not, they’re white guys, ceresco; that makes all the difference ya know. You would think the journalist would be appreciative of their albedo effect at least.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Curious George

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Almost true. With an implied condition that the curve must go through the point [0,0], the parabolic approximation has two parameters, and the piecewise linear has three. If you happen to know what the optimal global temperature is, please share it with us.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by retiredphysicseducator

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PINPOINTING THE ERRORS made by CLIMATOLOGISTS

Here are calculations using the (incorrect) IPCC net flux of 390W/m^2 into the surface where we assume that there is really variable flux that contributes to the 390 figure and it applies to five equal zones that receive 20%, 60%, 100%, 140% and 180% of the mean of 390W/m^2. This is far more realistic than using 390 for the whole globe including the dark side. Now, using the on-line Stefan-Boltzmann calculator at tutorvista.com (and all the flux, because the reflected component has been deducted) we get blackbody temperatures as shown below.

20% zone (78W/m^2) – 192.6K
60% zone (234W/m^2) – 253.5K
100% zone (390W/m^2) – 288.0K
140% zone (546W/m^2) – 313.5K
180% zone (702W/m^2) – 333.6K

Mean temperature 276.2K (less than 3°C)

Firstly, the IPCC et al incorrectly assumed they could include the back radiation and so their energy diagrams show a net of 390W/m^2 into the surface, a slightly fudged figure I would suggest anyway, and one which ignores the outward radiation. But, note the temperature for 100% is 288K (they fluked it right with 390 – or did they?) – just what they wanted for the mean temperature.

But, even when they incorrectly added back radiation (which does not penetrate the ocean surface and so cannot warm it) they still “forgot” the T^4 relationship in S-B, effectively treating the Earth as a flat disc receiving uniform flux day and night. Pierrehumbert made the same mistake.

When we insert realistic variation into the flux (as above) we get a far colder (and unrealistic) mean temperature, and we always will – that’s a mathematical fact. And we should not have added the back radiation anyway.

Do you now see how gullible you have all been to accept the whole incorrect paradigm that radiation to a planet’s surface explains the temperature? It doesn’t, and that’s blatantly obvious on Venus, because how could the atmosphere deliver the required 20,000W/m^2 or more to explain the Venus surface temperature when the incident solar radiation even at TOA is only about an eighth of that? Because radiation does not determine the temperature, radiation from CO2 is irrelevant.

Comment on Week in review – Paris edition by Jim D

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It is surprising that the political spin-masters invited journalists to their sausage-making. Not clear if any scientists were there to maintain the sanity. At least the greenhouse effect had a sufficient majority to win out in the end, but it sounds close.

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