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Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by hro001

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From the TDC article:

The conservative bias stems from several sources, scientists say. Part can be attributed to science’s aversion to drama and dramatic conclusions

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The pattern, said Oreskes in an interview, is under- rather than over-projection. “These data simply do not support the allegations by skeptics that scientists have been alarmists,” she said.

Yes, I’ve noticed such “aversion to drama and dramatic conclusions” as well as “conservative bias” and understatement in the pronouncements of IPCC Lead Author (recently appointed British Columbia Green Party Deputy Leader and aspiring member of the provincial legislature), Andrew Weaver.

In February, 2007 Weaver had declared that AR4:

“revealed climate change to be a barrage of intergalactic ballistic missiles“.

How much more evidence of “aversion to drama” and presence of “conservative bias” does one need, eh?! But if you do need a few more pixels in the picture of Weaver’s non-alarmist, conservative claims, you can find some here.

Not to mention how much more non-alarmist “conservative bias” can one find in the IPCC’s reports than in Michael Mann’s iconic hockey-stick – and its various iterations and reincarnations?!

But that aside, I find it quite interesting that this TDC article makes absolutely no mention of the InterAcademy Council’s 2010 findings regarding the IPCC. Amongst many other areas for improvement, the IAC had noted in Chapter 3 – IPCC’s Evaluation of Evidence and Treatment of Uncertainty:

The quantitative scales used by Working Group I raise four additional issues:

1. It is unclear what the use of separate confidence and likelihood scales accomplishes.[...]

2. It is well-documented in the literature that people interpret the terms
‘very unlikely,’ ‘likely’ etc. in Table 3.3 in different ways [...]

3. The use of the likelihood scale conveys less information than a probability distribution. It should not replace ways of communicating uncertainty that convey more information when they are available.[...]

4. The likelihood scale used by Working Group I includes more categories than the likelihood scale presented in the IPCC guidance [...] introducing inconsistencies in the way likelihood is presented in the Fourth Assessment Report. Moreover, the use of overlapping categories can lead to logical inconsistencies.[...]

Oh, well … perhaps the authors of this TDC article – along with those quoted – have very conveniently adopted redefinitions of “non-alarmist” and “conservative bias”.


Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by Alexander Biggs

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“And then we’ll be able to move from conversation to action.”

But only if we have got the science right. How are we to reconcile the views of the IPCC with the knowledge that global average temperatures actually fell between 1940 and 1970 and remained constant between 2000 and the present, when we know that carbon dioxide concentration increased markedly during both of these periods. We can’t ignore these discrepancies as scientists. We have to know why. It seems that the CO2 molecule is behaving inconsistently. Yes, it is when seen through classical thermodynamic eyes, but not when tested with quantum thermodynamics. There is the solution staring us in the face. See my website at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~alexandergbiggs and see “An Alternative view of climate change”

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by WebHubTelescope

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Chief only now seems to note similarity between Taleb’s black swans and Sornette’s dragon kings?

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by WebHubTelescope

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A fave headline: <blockquote><a href="http://grist.org/news/famed-idiot-lord-monckton-banned-for-life-from-un-climate-talks/" rel="nofollow">"Famed idiot Lord Monckton banned for life from U.N. climate talks "</a></blockquote>

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by Peter Lang

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Who is Richard Windsor?

I agree with all your points. I’d add that a smart grid will not cut CO2 emissions.

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by Wagathon

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How can we credit backward-looking public schoolteachers (“Climatists”) using computer climate models (GCMs) with the ability to divine the future of the Earth’s climate 30-50 years hence? Thinking as they do what have they ever done in the past that would give us confidence in their honesty, integrity, trustworthiness and intelligence or their abilities to create computer models that accurately predict anything?

What we have seen in the past only inspires distrust—e.g., incompetence in data gathering, deliberate manipulation and data gone missing. Schoolteachers are steadfast in refusals to allow their performances in the dropout factories to be objectively measured. As Climatists who live off tax dollars they also refuse to let anyone else see the computer climate programs we paid for. It seems Climatists have simply fabricated their GCMs out of whole cloth because their GCMs have no predictive ability whatsoever that much is certain—and, are simply hiding the evidence.

Comment on Skeptics: make your best case. Part II by stefanthedenier

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ursheep (@ur_sheep) | December 8, 2012 at 9:37 pm said: ”So, we all agree the climate changes”

If that’s the case; why the clever Warmist gave a name to the Fakes as: ”climate change Skeptics”. and they are proud of it…==== they are ”’skeptical” if the climate can change, or not; but they believe 101% in the phony GLOBAL warmings. One cannot get more wrong, and back to front, than that….!…

They cannot recognize the truth and real proofs from me; when drops in front of their nose – but they can parrot Hansen’s, Mann’s misleading gospels, better than the Warmist’ foot solders can… join the circus

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by WebHubTelescope

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“see “An Alternative view of climate change””

It looks like another one of those prank “An Australian view of climate change” theories.

You Aussies are all competing to overtake “Lord” Monckton as chief laughingstock in crackpot land.


Comment on Open thread weekend by Doug Cotton

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The calculations are not mine – you can see them in one of the cited papers in my new paper.

Comment on Open thread weekend by newclimatechangetheory

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Increasing “ocean heat content”? Where is the corresponding thermal expansion then?

“A new paper by geophysicist and sea-level expert Dr. Nils-Axel Morner examines data from satellites, tide-gauges, and field work to conclude that “At most, global average sea level is rising at a rate equivalent to 2-3 inches per century. It is probably not rising at all.” Professor Morner concludes, “Since sea level is not rising, the chief concern of the potential effects of anthropogenic “global warming” – that millions of shore-dwellers the world over may be displaced as the oceans expand – is baseless.”

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com.au/

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by Peter Lang

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Mike,

to provide a “visionary” example for the rest of the world to follow. You know, LEADERSHIP FROM THE FRONT AND BY EXAMPLE, and all.

Been there. Done That. Australia reckoned it would lead the world by example and all other nations would follow. That’s why our Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, took 120 delegates, followers. minders, bureaucrats and media to Copenhagen – to show the rest of the world how its done. We implemented a carbon tax to lead the world by example. We knew – with no uncertainty – the world would follow Australia’s example.

Australia showed the world by example at Copenhagen, Cancun, Durban and Doha.

Worked well, didn’t it, eh?
:)

Comment on Open thread weekend by WebHubTelescope

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Doug Cotton:
Is “newclimatechangetheory” your sockpuppet?

I thought so.

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by stefanthedenier

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Wagathon | December 9, 2012 at 1:04 am said: ''and, are simply hiding the evidence'' Mate, they have no evidence to hide. They are lying about an imaginary GLOBAL warming in 88years. Same as you are lying about GLOBAL warmings / coolings ''for every single year'', in the past. Why should you lie about 7000 phony GLOBAL warmings in distant past; but they shouldn't cash in, on one phony global warming of their own?!

Comment on Week in review 12/8/12 by ghl

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WHT
Perhaps we could use coal power as our “seed corn” as it is cheap and will last for millenia?

Comment on AGU highlights by Steven Mosher


Comment on Multidecadal climate to within a millikelvin by stefanthedenier

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WebHubTelescope | December 8, 2012 at 8:57 am said: ''Climate skeptics like Springer are schizophrenic.First they doubt the mechanism of AGW. Then if they start to doubt their own doubt, they claim that global warming won’t be bad, so might as well bring it on'' There are lots of Fakes as Springer; they all suffer from.. I think was called ''Jackal & Hide'' chronic sickness. Used to be described as: running with one leg on each side of a barbwire fence experts... Or; only half of his brains is on the front end... They are experts on ''ifs and maybes'' same as the Warmist. . Springer &lowot sound and look the same to me; like two cheeks on same ar/se, only YOU stand in-between two of them, not to blend into one

Comment on AGU highlights by Peter Lang

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Moshtwit, referring to himself as a moron. I agree.

Comment on Multidecadal climate to within a millikelvin by Petra

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Covering up your penchant for projecting your inadequacies onto others, by arbitrarily accusing others of using your tactics. Genious.

Comment on AGU highlights by Peter Lang

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By the way MoshMoron,

If you think you know the answer to the question i posed “What are the impacts?” why didn’t you answer when I asked you in the first place instead of carrying on like a child with “I don’t have to answer your question”?

Comment on Multidecadal climate to within a millikelvin by Punksta

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Yes they are almost as tiresome as the AGW Certainty oddballs.

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