Peter your GWPF link is word salad.
It’s a whole bunch of disparite issues with not a whole lot of relevance to what we where discussing.
Comment on Mainstreaming ECS ~ 2 C by Michael
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
GaryM | May 27, 2013 at 11:49 pm |
“Watch any of Palin’s debates and then talk about how uneducated she is.”
How about watching the Katie Kouric interview and then talk about how educated she is?
Give me a break. Palin was a mistake. If she’d been better vetted another choice for running mate would have been made. They needed an evangelical for one and they needed some under-represented demographic to counter the affirmative action attractiveness of Obama. A woman was perfect for the latter as Hillary demonstrated by almost winning the DemocRAT primary. McCain’s campaign knew he was going to lose unless they could energize the evangelical base to get out the vote then maybe steal some of the women’s vote who hated Obama for clobbering Hillary. They had a chance with the right running mate. A good chance too. Lieberman was McCain’s choice but polling showed that was a losing combination. Palin had the right stuff on paper, as long as you didn’t read too deep, but turned out to have way too much baggage and turned off as many independents as she energized in the fundamentalist base so they lost by the same margin they would have with Lieberman.
My pick was Condoleeza Rice. A black (not half black either) woman so doubly effective for a counter against Obama’s white guilt and black solidarity advantage. Plus Rice is so far from stupid it’s ridiculous having a PhD in political science, a track record as Secretary of State, and fercrisakes she was Provost of Stanford. Unfortunately she is no tongue-speaking snake-handling evangelical Christian and McCain’s advisors were convinced that was a non-negotiable qualification and Palin is certainly deep enough into that. An unwed teenage daughter coming out of the woodwork at the most inopportune time wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement for how well she’s able to project her moral goodness however. It was pretty much a comedy of errors.
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Comment on Mainstreaming ECS ~ 2 C by captdallas 0.8 or less
Webster, “Cappy shows some nonsense relating to standard deviations.”
I don’t think it is nonsense or I would not have shown it to you. Standard deviation is nothing more than the RMS value of the anomaly. Since the system has energy constantly flowing through it, standard deviation of temperature anomaly is analogous to monitoring the the atmospheric “voltage”. It is a simple “cheat” Webster, just another tool in the box other than the hammer.
Since you think that the Land surface temperature is an indication of the expected ECS instead of the oceans which actually drive global climate, consider that chart. It is the 25 mo standard deviation divided by the full series standard deviation. A value of 1 would be a one sigma event.
The land variations doesn’t have much impact on the NH as a whole in the lower troposphere.
The southern extent. The land has more variance and a small impact on the SH as a whole. It is like to totally different hemispheres :)
There is the globe. What do you think is driving the lower troposphere temperatures? The land? I don’t think so.
This compares the global lower troposphere, mid-troposphere and lower stratosphere. There are two volcanic and one ENSO perturbations that had a noticeable impact on climate. Standard deviation just provides a scaled indication of impact. Notice how the lower stratosphere kind of ignored the internal variability (ENSO) with the 25 month comparison.
With a scaled reference and multiple layers you can create a crude but interesting wattmeter of sorts. Much better with absolute temperatures, but still somewhat useful. All you need is a reliable reference and you can estimate/measure just about anything. Land surface temperature is not a reliable reference.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by AK
Personally I don't (and didn't at the time) believe the Republican party machine(s) were prepared to really support McCain. He won the primaries primarily because the voters were fed up with the party machine(s), so they just went into passive resistance mode. Perhaps they thought that a term or two of Obama would build up more support for their candidate(s) later. And <b>perhaps</b> they were right.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
Max_OK is a fiction. It was saracasm on my part but even if it wasn’t it’s like telling Bugs Bunny to stop hiding from Elmer Fudd. You people are ridiculous.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
You want an apology, Max? Fine. Post your name and address and I’ll mail it to you. Otherwise I consider you to be the equivalent of a fictional character from a novel.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
Curry puts her pants on one leg at a time like everyone else, Pokerguy. Are you an American? If so you don’t really act like one. We eschew titles. All men are created equal and so on and so forth.
Write that down.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
Practice what you preach, Wee Willie.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by heinrich
Harold:
Thank you.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/File:Ken-buggy.jpg
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by kim
Interesting the usage of ‘average’.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by David Springer
Samaurai are no doubt spinning in their graves. Interesting transition in Japanese culture to say the least. Oh how the mighty have fallen comes to mind.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by willard (@nevaudit)
What can I say, Big Dave, curious spoiled all the fun.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by kim
He who knows it all,
Aspersions and polemic.
Naustique, urp, naustique.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by kim
Minions and millions,
It’s fun for flying monkeys.
Hazard on the course.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by heinrich
Bart R:
“It’s funny.”
Canadian tax dollars at work – defending the spin of Suncor and Syncrude from formerly obscure artists…
http://m.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/17/artist-inspiration-canada-silence-climate
That’s “funny” in the same way that eating broken glass is “delicious”.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by mwgrant
David Springer-
Re: Spin and fall. Maybe, in some manner, it reflects a new, strangely ‘innocent’ society.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by heinrich
One person’s “affirmative action” is a nation’s “democracy in action”.
Be afraid.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by timg56
willard,
If coal trains are another species of squirrel, please note it ws not I who looked them up in the field guide.
Speaking of which, there are reports that the Northern coal train squirrel may be expamding its habitat. Already indigenous to the PNW, the coal train squirrel is on the verge of increasing its numbers and expanding its range. However it does face the threat of extermination attempts from avid environmental activists who believe it is a non-native, invasive species, whose expansion will destroy the world as we know it.
Foot note: They can’t explain how the world will be destroyed, just that it will. My guess is squirrel farts.
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tmg56
The above is for sale.
I’m acting all attorney-like because if Obama is not the owner of the domain, if he isn’t listed as an officer in the 501c corporation, then it’s not his website and he has no authority over it. It appears to be a bunch of his campaign lackeys. In this case I’m sure they know they won’t be working on any more Obama campaigns so they have little to lose by doing their own thing. My guess is they’re just milking big donors with promises of spending the night in the Lincoln bedroom or some schit like that and Obama lets them do it as payback for what they did for him in 2011. Fair’s fair. I won’t blame Obama if he isn’t in control and as far as I can tell he isn’t.
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Comment on Calling out climate change deniers in Congress by timg56
Brandon,
May I make a correction to your comment about “calling for someone’s death”?
Springer did no such thing. He simply made a suggestion. And if someone is as concerned about CO2 as Max claims, then the suggestion has bearing.
His offer of assisting Max, should he decide to act on the suggestion is, in my opinion, in bad taste. Jarheads exhibit that from time to time. Just be happy they are our jarheads. It is a small price for what they do otherwise.
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