Comments for Climate Etc.

Plain old water power… Germany’s got lots of mountains and water

My understanding is that the only consensus is that-

“if all other things in the system remain unchanged, then additional atmospheric CO2 will result in some warming”

In the real world all other things do NOT remain the same, and science does not even understand all the forcings and their relationships to one another

Jim

Those darn skeptics. Some of them even want to know what positive result will occur as a result of the actions they are being asked, or told; to implement. People can be so darn demanding. If everyone would just do what you thought was best huh?

I believe the role of freshwater systems is poorly accounted for by climate science.

Yeah, if Israel didn’t have sovereignty, the UN would have handed it over to the Palestinians decades ago. Which is exactly the point. You want to ask somebody, ask all the dead Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists if Israel has sovereignty.

Now I have to wonder, How many elephants can you get in an IPCC conference room?

Who knew
Pere Ubu
In Siberia
Grew?
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What is the UN consensus on individuals’ God-given rights to life, liberty and property?

clouds reflect more heat
lead to cool earth trend – how long
even kim don’t know

Heh, that your happiness is theirs to pursue.
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Hey Hunter,
Glad to see you back. Missed your trenchant comments…

The Russian representative stood up to the lectern, took off his shoe and pounded out: ‘We will parry you!’
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The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual…Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State, until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, and treats him accordingly.

~Henry David Thoreau

Possible positive results:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=monsoon-rains-cover-india-early-boo&posted=1#comments

Danangel- Even the propaganda printing unScientific American didn’t claim that the rain due to AGW. They do frequently like to claim that people will be harmed by the increasing rain however. This is in spite of the fact that the Indian population is harmed by severe weather every year because their government is so corrupt that they never seem to build and maintain robust infrastructure.

Gary

No, we in Britain haven’t forgotten about Sovereignty . We’ve been trying to get it back for thirty years after we realised that Ted Heath had lied to us about the nature of the EU.

Ever since no UK government has dared to hold a referendum on EU membership and the red lines in the sand they say they have drawn recede ever further away.

This fiasco sounds awfully familiar to those of us who have followed the interminable European conferences and treaties. They eventually get resolved by numerous helpings of fudge heaped on top of a generous portion of obfuscation.

TonyB

The rain was due to an unusually late tropical cyclone.

Wagathon,

RE “You don’t think American oil companies pay taxes to the US government?”

What I said was that oil companies receive generous subsidies (tax breaks). I could research what percentage they actually pay, but in any event, Don’t put words in my mouth please. That was a monumental stretch. Thank you.

Short answer. The land gets all the excess heat, while the ocean SST gets only half as the rest is sequestered by effective diffusion into deeper waters. A straightforward model which reflects empirical observations.

You should research that and compare the taxes oil companies pay based on any metric you care to choose. Or, if you think they are getting some kind of deal, buy shares… unless you believe they will be nationalized like GM that was driven into bankruptcy by government edicts and the unions.

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