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Comment on Open thread weekend by Bart R

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Bill | August 11, 2013 at 10:13 am |

If you think you possess a greater hold of the truth, by all means, don’t keep it secret.

Share it with us. Be specific. Be detailed. Let us see enough of your truth to expose it to tests of its validity and verity.

We all want truth, except denialists.

We all want to know what is true, which is why we contrive logic and uphold reason, and test what is said for consistency with the truth.

Or others, like you, assert some secret knowledge or intuition that can never be subject to reason or logic or sense if made open to scrutiny.

If what I’ve said is untrue, it is so open and detailed and invites remarks that will help me correct any of my human failings.

How’s that going for you?


Comment on After Climategate . . . never the same (?) by Joshua

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Heh.

The increasing bitterness coming from folks like Joshua…

Yet more bogusness from Fuller. “Increasing bitterness?” Really?

Yet more evidence that evidence is not necessary for Tom to draw his conclusions.

Go ahead, Tom – on what basis have you determined that my “bitterness” is “increasing?”

Or, perhaps, where is your evidence of “increasing bitterness” from folks “like [me]?” And on what basis are they like me?

Comment on After Climategate . . . never the same (?) by Joshua

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Now this is a beautiful piece of logic:

“But I get the impression many climate skeptics who post here at Climate Etc are right-wing ideologues.”

Says person A

…interestingly one of the most important skeptics is liberal.

Says person B

Could be used in a textbook for providing an example of a non-sequitur.

Comment on Open thread weekend by jim2

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When Bart uses the word “truth,” we should substitute “Bart-truth.”

@ Bart R | August 11, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Reply

“WUWT apparently is bleeding readership rapidly.”

Comment on Open thread weekend by Bart R

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jim2 | August 11, 2013 at 3:01 pm |

Would you call the shape of that graph on Alexa a hockey stick?

Comment on After Climategate . . . never the same (?) by Joshua

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On second thought, perhaps the reason for lifting the quote from the context is that it “boils down” the argument, and focuses on the ‘main message” that guides “what’s included and what is left out.”

Eh, Edim?

The climate wars are a work of art and a thing of beauty.

Comment on Open thread weekend by jim2

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Anthony continues …
“As a result, I’ve been invited by the higher ups at WordPress.com to join WordPress Enterprise, at a reduced rate from the normal $500 per month. There’s a backstory that I might be able to tell someday, but suffice it to say that I believe I owe this opportunity to something Al Gore did against WUWT .

This Enterprise level of service will add lots of functionality, and the best news: it will allow you to edit your comments to fix typos and other issues, a feature most often asked for.

It will open a whole new dimension for WUWT in many many ways with new features and ways to improve global visibility. This, all while maintaining the high level of uptime and hardened network firewall against the attacks from people that want to bring it down.

I’ve accepted the offer. Thanks to everyone: the moderators, the readers, and the guest authors for bringing WUWT to the top.”

Comment on Open thread weekend by Jim Cripwell

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Willard, you write “This last this needs to be clarified.”

Please note that you omitted my “Overly simplistic”. I am not writing a long learned thesis. For CAGW, I have defined it. The “this” is climate sensitivity.


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Comment on Open thread weekend by phatboy

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Antarctic land ice is the largest ice cube on the planet; if it’s getting a few degrees warmer, it’s softening and expanding.

Now tell us how long it takes for that few degrees at the surface to soak into the ice to a sufficient depth to make a significant contribution to this effect.

Comment on Open thread weekend by RC Saumarez

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@ Fan of more d……. and lolwot.

These two are argumentitive cretins with nothing much to say. From their general tone, they are clearly liberal arts/sociology types who have no education or interest in parsing a scientific argument.

The trouble with blogs such as this is that they attract intellectually challenged cretins who a dazzled by what they consider to their own brilliance.

Comment on Open thread weekend by RC Saumarez

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Do you know any maths?

Comment on Open thread weekend by manacker

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Bart R

Will 2014 be the year Climate Denialism dies?

I hardly believe that there are any sane people today who “deny climate” (so there is no “Climate Denialism” as such today.

I also don’t believe that there are very many who believe that “climate” doesn’t “change” (= “Climate Change Denialism”). [Maybe there are some nuts that believe it has been in "static equilibrium" for thousands of years until humans started the Industrial Revolution, but these can be written off as climate doofuses.]

So let’s say you are referring to those who are rationally skeptical of the CAGW premise, as outlined in detail by IPCC in its AR4 report.

As a member of this group, I hardly believe, in light of all the recent findings, that this group (Webby’s 3%, who actually comprise a much larger %age) will “die” in 2014.

Do you?

If so, on what basis?

Max

Comment on Open thread weekend by lolw0t

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And I would guess you are an engineer, not a scientist.

Engineers have a history of wandering into other fields and getting it wrong.

Comment on Open thread weekend by Bart R

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jim2 | August 11, 2013 at 3:13 pm |

I’m quite sanguine about agreeing that the Alexa WUWT hockey stick graph shows the highest levels in WUWT traffic in recorded history.

The appearance of drop in readership in WUWT has clearly turned a corner since last I wasted any time thinking about it.

You say new changes have been made to drive readership to WUWT?

Is this of the same sort of changes as have been made by Microsoft to drive traffic to Bing (making it the world’s “most popular search engine”)?

Be specific. Be detailed. Spell out how this hockey stick hid the decline in WUWT’s credibility?


Comment on Open thread weekend by Joshua

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From their general tone, they are clearly liberal arts/sociology types who have no education or interest in parsing a scientific argument.

Heh. Yeah, and not only that, they’re elitists also!

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Comment on Open thread weekend by RC Saumarez

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@Jim D,
Sensitivity will be a non-linear function in a system near its bifircation. Away from this the sensitivity can be linearised.

Comment on Open thread weekend by Jim D

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captd, it is also said that GCMs are closer to Stephens than to K&T, but it is not correct to say that K&T had an error of any significant magnitude. Measurements can refine things, and Stephens did that refinement years after K&T. No basic ideas changed. Science advances by refinement.

Comment on Open thread weekend by manacker

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Bart R

Would you call the shape of that graph on Alexa a hockey stick?

Yeah.

But, unlike Mike’s “shtick”, it’s based on real data.

Max

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