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Comment on Scientists and motivated reasoning by Mike Edwards

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This essay by Roger Scruton on the subject of “Democracy” makes a point that strikes a chord in this debate about science:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23607302


“Orthodoxy, conformity and the hounding of the dissident define the default position of mankind, and there is no reason to think that democracies are any different in this respect from Islamic theocracies or one-party totalitarian states.”


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Comment on Proactionary principle by manacker

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R. Gates

Bad news: scientists believe that species are becoming extinct

Good news: this is apparently nothing new (we just have no reliable quantifying data for earlier periods). We also have no reliable evidence that the most recent extinctions are being caused principally by humans.

Really good news: the UN projection of “200 species per day” is speculative – and, since it would mean no more species in 200+ years, highly doubtful.

Sorry. NO SALE.

Go try to peddle it somewhere else, Gates.

Max

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Steven Mosher

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Really max .. suggest u reread yourself

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by manacker

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http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

[Arctic] Sea ice retreat through the first half of August was near average, bringing the ice extent to 5.94 million square kilometers (2.30 million square miles). Sea ice extent continues to track well below average levels (average of 1981 to 2010), though remains within two standard deviations of the long-term mean…

Temperatures in the central Arctic at the 925 hPa level have been 2 to 4 degrees Celsius (4 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit) below average since late July…

Antarctic sea ice extent for August 19 is 18.70 million square kilometers (7.22 million square miles), a record or near-record high level.

Global sea ice extent is 5.94 + 18.70 = 24.64 msk or around 4% below the 1979-2000 average baseline for this date.

Max

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Max_OK

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Chief, I forgot you don’t know much about America.

West Virginia is a leading coal producing State, and West Virginian’s are known for their ignorance.

Australia is a leading coal producer for Asia, and Australians are an ignorant bunch, as evidenced by you.

So you could say Australia is the West Virginia of Asia.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Max_OK

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Yes, Max_CH, Australia is not a part of Asia, but it’s close. How about “Australia is the West Virginia of the Far East” or if that’s wrong, Australia is West Virginia down under.

Do you know what you call a West Virginia gal who can outrun her brothers and her pa?

Comment on Scientists and motivated reasoning by manacker

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Haven’t Hansen et al made a strong, scrupulously reasoned, thoroughly referenced, scientific case?

Nope.

Sounds more like a shrill doomsday prophesy.

Max


Comment on Scientists and motivated reasoning by Edim

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It has to get worse before it gets better.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by manacker

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<blockquote>Do you know what you call a West Virginia gal who can outrun her brothers and her pa?</blockquote> An Okie?

Comment on Scientists and motivated reasoning by Beth Cooper

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Fellow serf,
Mann over-bored was part inspired by yer scientism-ology
over-view @ 8.25pm
Bts
Ps Sometimes I thinck u and I are the only ones around
here that can spel.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Michael Larkin

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I disagree, Jim D. If the results are in fact an artifact of the methodology, how else to say so, and why not say it? It doesn’t say anything about the motives of the person using the methodology; anyone can make an honest mistake, and that may have been what it was.

I’m reminded of Andrew Wiles’ first attempt at proving Fermat’s last conjecture. After presenting his work at a conference, he wrote up his proof and it was refereed. One of the referees picked up a mistake, which meant Wiles had to go back to the drawing board and correct it, which took quite some time. But he accepted that his initial proof was an artifact of his erroneous methodology.

Did that mean his reviewer had made a “serious attack”? Did it mean that Wiles was some kind of scoundrel or incompetent? Should the reviewer not have pointed out the error and described it in detail for what it factually was?

Honestly, this kind of attitude is exactly why people have so little confidence in, and respect for, climate scientists. What’s wrong with directly addressing a possible error in methodology? Why is that framed in terms of being a “direct attack” and “less than objective? To me, it just seems like normal science. If Dr. Francis thinks Dr. Barnes’ critique is incorrect, then she should simply show why there is no error in her methodology. And if she can’t, then she needs to go back to the drawing board just as Andrew Wiles did.

Comment on Scientists and motivated reasoning by Edim

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How disheartening, the comment by Jim D. Al Gore caused immense damage to science, environmentalism and liberalism.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Max_OK

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Steven, I don’t remember the discussion about Nic Lewis’ science manners. Do you have evidence I participated in the discussion or was aware of it?

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Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Max_OK

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Max_CH, I can believe that.

I would have said Australia is the Oklahoma of Asia, but Oklahoma isn’t know for coal.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by kim

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He’s a real nowhere man.
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Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by Chief Hydrologist

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Every now and then some dimwitted pissant like Max thinks to make a laughably immature joke about Australia.

We are in fact very much part of Asia – in a region that is 40% and growing of global markets.

Comment on Arctic sea ice and extreme weather by manacker

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Max_OK

I wouldn’t say that Australia and Asia are exactly “close”.

Nearest points seem to be East Timor and Darwin, about 450 mi (720 km) as the crow flies.

About the same as car mileage from Muskogee, OK to Tupelo, MS.

Or from Muskogee to Flintstone, GA as the crow flies.

Max_CH

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