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Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by AK

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Put another way I can think of a few climate scientists who are capable of speaking intelligently about politics. The vast majority should shut up and dance. or stick to their knitting.. whatever metaphor you like.

If the shoe fits…

Fan eats it.


Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by AK

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Put another way I can think of a few climate scientists who are capable of speaking intelligently about politics. The vast majority should shut up and dance. or stick to their knitting.. whatever metaphor you like.

If the shoe fits…

Fan eats it.

Comment on Pause tied to equatorial Pacific surface cooling by Dana Nuccitelli: The Pacific Ocean fills in another piece of the global warming puzzle

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[…] rosy view on her blog. By focusing at the model simulation data specifically from 1975 to 1998, Curry incorrectly argued that the study supports the position that global warming is mostly […]

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by Howard

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M Hastings:

It’s human nature. I’m surprised yu can get up in the morning.

Environmental Science (that is not climate science) = Political Football
Creation Science = Political Football
Medical Science = Political Football
Petroleum Geology = Political Football
Computer Science = Political Football
Nanotech = Political Football

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by The Very Reverend Jebediah Hypotenuse

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Mosher:

You will find that any suggestion you offer for improving the situation will be rejected.

That’s because “suggestions” and “improving the situation” are not the jobs of a scientist. Advocacy bad.

Note the OP: “We just want their scientific opinion.”

Walk the walk and all that.

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by jim2

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I read the intro to the hot spot post on Climate Dialog. I think I know why there isn’t the hot spot to the extent expected. The difference is between volume and temperature. With more CO2, there is a greater volume of water vapor emitted by the surface of the ocean. But this nascent water vapor is the same temperature as water vapor emitted with less CO2. Therefore, there is a greater volume, but the temperature is substantially the same.

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by Michael

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Clearly what is needed is a scientific mediation to discuss if there is any value in scientific mediation.

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by captdallas2 0.8 +/- 0.2

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Webster, “Cappy, you are the exemplar for arguing science the wrong way. ”

How? By insisting that the problem be defined before it is solved? By double checking basic accounting before running down rabbit holes? By looking for the flaws instead of accepting vague assumptions?

I damn sure don’t do “your” kind of “science”.


Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by Rob Starkey

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If someone can’t tell you reliably what will happen over the next few years why should you believe them when they try to tell you what will happen more than a hundred years into the future????

Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by WebHubTelescope (@whut)

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Barnes,
Ever heard of the term “demand destruction”?

Demand for fossil fuels is going down and it has nothing to do with a bludgeon.

The free market is setting the world price for various fossilfuels and the repercussions and outcomes are settling in.

Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by David L. Hagen

Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by Rob Starkey

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Weeby

LOL–Demand for fossil fuels are going down huh? What planet are you living on because here on planet earth that is not true today and will not be for decades.

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Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by David L. Hagen

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"Re: I.4. . . .before China surpassed the United States as the largest GHG emitter, . . .shouldn’t the warming be far worse than what was predicted . . .?" EPA's policy: Therefore we must exceed Germany and move ALL US coal fired power to China to increase the CO2 emissions to enhance this obviously effective method of reducing global warming! (/sarc) For evidence, see <a href="http://www.energytrendsinsider.com/2013/08/20/king-coal-gets-fatter-while-the-us-goes-on-a-diet/" / rel="nofollow">Roger Rapier's update with graph of China's CO2 vs USA.</a> <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/03/report-epa-rules-to-shut-down-more-than-280-coal-fired-units/" / rel="nofollow">Report: EPA rules to shut down more than 280 coal fired units</a>

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by timg56

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So where would you place Sierra Club’s $26 million from the gas industry on the scale of mercenary behavior willard?

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Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by John

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Quite sadly, I have to agree with Rob Starkey about how many Americans that have that ole Climate Change religion.

I have many intelligent friends, highly successful, highly educated, who actually think the world is headed for real disaster. So much so that they get very upset and depressed about it. And you can’t talk to them about it rationally, you label yourself a denier or an obstructionist simply by pointing out new science.

It wouldn’t matter if you pointed out how wrong Gore’s movie was, they are all in on the notion of looming catastrophe — they would just say it was propaganda in an important cause.

If you try to point out that from 2005 to 2011, China’s increase in emissions in those 6 years was equal to half of the total US emissions, and that a big drop in US emissions wouldn’t get us close to stopping the worldwide increase, you get a lecture about how the US has to lead, and you get a finger pointed at your face.

If you point out that the EU has caused unemployment and the shift of manufacturing elsewhere by their high electricity prices, caused by their massive shift to uneconomic renewables, they don’t believe you.

The problem is that our MOST educated people really DO have the climate change religion. No logic or argument can get in the way.

Comment on What is Scientific Mediation? by timg56

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You know you’ve been dissed when the renowned web refuses to work with you. Oh the embarrasment, the shame, the humiliation McIntyre must be feeling.

Well, maybe not. As any Minnesotan knows, flies and mosquitos are a aspect of life one learns to deal with. Particularly in the Boundary Waters, where they like to tag team you.

Comment on U.S. Republicans: critical thinking on climate change by Rob Starkey

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Just looks like dirt that is not my responsibility to manage. I do not feel I have the right to tell others what to do with their property unless what they are doing or proposing to do will harm me more than it helps me or others.

Somehow, you feel you have that right.

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