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Comment on Consensus denialism by R. Gates aka Skeptical Warmist

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Mr. Or Ms. Angech,

You need to understand the climate system a bit better before posting such an incorrect statement. The vast majority of energy in the climate system is in the ocean (by a thousand times or more) and the net heat flow is from ocean to atmosphere. Extra energy does not have to “get into” the ocean, but rather, the flow from ocean to atmosphere simply needs to slow just slightly in order for the atmospheric sensible heat to flatten or cool. Recent data and several studies have shown this is exactly what had been happening over the past 10 to 15 years, mainly as a result of slowing energy flow from the Pacific.


Comment on Consensus denialism by goodspkr

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I’m thinking Appell appeal to make it better could have been used by alchemist looking for the philosphers stone

Comment on Consensus denialism by R. Gates aka Skeptical Warmist

Comment on Consensus denialism by goodspkr

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Using your behavior as a model I gave my wife flours for our anniversary. The reaction was mixed. What did I do wrong? David Springer

You must be a newlywed.

Comment on Consensus denialism by Herman A (Alex) Pope

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Climatology makes predictions of future behavior based on past behaviors

That would work great. What has repeated over and over for ten thousand years will happen again.

The problem is that they have decided that what has happened over and over has stopped happening and what has never happened will now happen.

What kind of logic is that?

Temperature and Sea Level Data are on track to repeat the cycles of the past all for the same reasons. No actual data supports the new, unnatural Theory. CO2 IS higher than before in the last ten thousand years. Not even one other thing is out of bounds of the past ten thousand years and not even one other thing is headed out of bounds.

Only Model Output goes out of bounds. Get the models to repeat the cycles of the past ten thousand years and then the will predict another similar cycle.

Comment on Consensus denialism by WebHubTelescope (@whut)

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Yes, Fred Singer is the krank that gave Springer the idea that the ocean is a “liquid GHG”.

Comment on Inter-decadal Variation in Northern Hemisphere sea ice by Matthew R Marler

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Kim: So what does he mean, Matthew?

I don’t know. I’ll consult the BBs.

Comment on Consensus denialism by Herman A (Alex) Pope

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I need 5 years
make that 7
12 should work or 15 or 17
maybe 20 or 30 or 50

Give me a break!

Look for what is wrong with the Theory.
How many years before some of the 97% look at actual data?

The good news is that they have many less in the group of 97%. They refuse to count the ones who have doubt.

Some day that number will get so low that the few remaining Alarmists will likely be able to claim 100% and they will likely all fit in one small room.


Comment on Peer review: the skeptic filter by Steven Mosher

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jebediah,

Nice link to CMIP3 data. have you heard of CMIP5?

Comment on Consensus denialism by philjourdan

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@MW – but they are not as bad as land Sharks.

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Comment on Peer review: the skeptic filter by Steven Mosher

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luckily we dont use USHCN Monthly from GISS. GISS uses monthly data.
We use daily data.

Or you drop USHCN all together, its only 1200 stations out of 20000 in the US. Guess what happens what happens when you drop those USHCn stations? you get the same answer

Comment on Quote of the week by Jan P Perlwitz

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@thisisnotgoodtogo:

I replied to the assertion “Climate scienceas presented by the IPCC has relied on the voracious appetite for heat of the CO2 molecule.”

It’s utter rubbish. To what claims supposedly made in what scientific publications of climate science presented by the IPCC does this assertion refer?

Your assertion, The very definition of “climate change” they are given to use is “AGW”.

is utter rubbish too. And since you haven’t presented anything, except a rubbish claim, I do not need “to weasel” out of anything.

Comment on Peer review: the skeptic filter by NotAGolfer

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Remember, students are free to choose their professors. Dr. Curry doesn’t seem to try to hide her skepticism of certain claims by climate scientists. Many admire that, both the skepticism and the willingness to discuss it.

Why not stay on topic, instead of turning to character attacks?

Comment on Quote of the week by Edim

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Mosher, exactly! We could have 2 deg C cooling over this century and the CO2 sensitivity could still be positive and high. Climate changes with or without humans. That’s lesson one for consensus climate scientists. Otherwise, it’s basic education.


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Comment on Quote of the week by Scott

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Steven Mosher,
thanks for another good article link. Always useful to keep perspective.
An anology is in chemistry when modeling reaction rates and bond angle or spin influences. One starts with simple models of unclomplex reactions and when the results adequately explain and reproduce observations, one can move to more complex and faster reactions.

Scott

Comment on Peer review: the skeptic filter by philjourdan

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And probably loving it! A hard teacher is often one of the best.

Comment on Quote of the week by Jan P Perlwitz

Comment on Peer review: the skeptic filter by Don Monfort

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How do you know which ones are the good ones, Steven? It seems like a situation similar to the evaluation of mutual fund managers:

http://www.ifa.com/12steps/step5/step5page2.asp

“Unlike the 20-year characteristic of an index, the past performance of money managers has no bearing on their future performance. Every reputable study of mutual fund performance over the past 30 years has found there is no reliable way to know if past superior managers will win again in the future. This is why some variation of the disclaimer “past performance is no guarantee of future results” must appear in all mutual fund advertisements and prospectuses, even though the SEC allows it to be written in very small print.

Studies show that those who have outperformed some past benchmark are more likely to underperform it in the future. Burton Malkiel, author of the long-time investment best seller, A Random Walk Down Wall Street, conducted a study in 1995. In the study’s conclusion, he states, “It does not appear that one can fashion a dependable strategy of generating excess returns based on a belief that long-run mutual fund returns are persistent.””

Maybe the models that most closely match recent climate data just got lucky. Maybe we are looking at what is essentially a Random Walk Down Climate Street. What say you, Mr. Mosher?

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