Gary: Agree:)
Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by rls
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by timg56
Thongs – what typing on a phone gets you.
Still, when it comes to pondering, thongs are probably a better topic than Dr Curry’s supposed short comings.
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Comment on Role of Atlantic warming(?) in recent climate shifts by Ragnaar
“..Our simulations suggest that a substantial fraction (60% to 80%) of the ice sheet was frozen to the bed for the first 75 kyr of the glacial cycle, thus strongly limiting basal flow. Subsequent doubling of the area of warm-based ice in response to ice sheet thickening and expansion and to the reduction in downward advection of cold ice may have enabled broad increases in geologically- and hydrologically-mediated fast ice flow during the last deglaciation.” – http://scienceofdoom.com/2014/04/
The higher you stack ice the more you get basal sliding. It seems it’s a question of mass accumulation reversing itself and that the authors have a plausible and interesting theory. When wondering how is it possible to pull out of a glacier, I’ll give relatively sudden a chance.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Rob Ellison
It easy to overestimate liberal numbers – even in an America where in a resurgence of extreme left ideation proponents have had a strategy of strategic infiltration for a generation.
They remain fringe extremists within the general population, in engineering, in business with strongholds in the humanities and social sciences and a presence in Marxist versions of economics.
None of the latter is particularly interesting or useful.
The new discussion in Australia is for grants to be based on patents rather than papers. That should shake things up.
‘Climate science’ rather than empiric science seems an odd sort of throwback to millennialist cults that emerge occasionally in human history. Amplified by modern communications.
In climate – nothing is certain but that the system is multiply coupled and nonlinear. This leaves a lot of wiggle room to make up cr@p. Where there is wiggle room – there is worms. QED.
There is a catechism and it culminates ‘putting a price on carbon – Gaia be blessed’. There are practical and pragmatic alternatives. It is more than time to stop taking them seriously and move on with actual grown up strategy.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by DaveW
Perhaps I know too many foresters, but they never seem to think an ‘over-mature’ tree is a good thing. I don’t think anyone who had to clear virgin forest to raise a crop was much of a tree-hugger either, but a mature forest can be a quite restful ‘cathedral’ for someone who needs respite from the city. Also, mature forests are quite rare now, and people value rarity.
So, I suppose I agree with you that human cultural biases invade scientific thought, but to bring the discussion back on topic: would a department of Clementians have ever hired a raving, climax-denying Gleasonian? How common is the ability to tolerate different belief systems in academic science? Is Climate Science the exception or the rule?
If diversity is difficult to maintain within a group, then more groups is a possible solution: more and smaller departments instead of fewer and larger departments as has been the trend over recent decades.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by timg56
Cwon,
good example of the 75% I referred to. Jim D’s characterization is indeed pathetic.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Jim D
Even many of those people who excel want to give more back to the country than they have to under the current system. Many pay lower rates than the middle class. They know it is not right.
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Comment on Role of Atlantic warming(?) in recent climate shifts by Ragnaar
I’ll say this about Pope’s climate theory, when Minnesota was getting blankets of high albedo snow post equinox about March 21st, 2014 the theory was working. We are at about 45 degrees longitude and the Sun was pretty high in the sky so we avoided a lot of SW gain for a few days. Even 2 days out of about 182 of peak solar not too far from 1%. So it seems a key variable is Spring snowfall. When snow can still occur at a high solar time. And this would occur along the margins. For instance you may not get such snow in Oklahoma.
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Comment on Role of Atlantic warming(?) in recent climate shifts by Matthew R Marler
curryja:I had a post on this about two weeks ago:
http://judithcurry.com/2014/07/22/are-the-deep-oceans-cooling/
Thanks for the link. I was away from my computer at that time.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Steven Mosher
My good old marxist friends and socialist friends in europe were stunned to find out that skepticism was a right wing movement.
They thought that right wingers would support the “establishment” and that
climate science was the establishment. they were puzzled that more us left wingers were not anti establishment.
Thats how they saw it.
other europeans that were critical of climate science came from another leftist perspective.. guess what that was?
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by MikeN
I agree with Victor Venema, when debating Judy Curry, the consensus side needs all the forces it can muster.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by timg56
News flash Jim,
Nothing prevents people in the US from paying funds to the government beyond what they are required by tax law. No one has to claim tax deductions that are available to them. And people are free to give money to whatever interest or good cause they want to.
You are well past the boots stage. One now needs a full immersion suit when reading your comments.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Matthew R Marler
Jim D: It is just physics including that CO2 plays a well quantified role even in current climate.
The roles played by CO2 are poorly quantified. Examples have been provided, such as the Climate Dialogue discussions on the climate sensitivity and the poorly justified uniform priors with positive probability up to 8 – 12 C per doubling.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Michael
steve,
Maybe science affirmative action for conservatives?
We really need to politicise the science better.
Though I have this nagging inner sceptic that keeps on about how, until today , the ‘skeptics’ have been aghast at the ‘politicization’ of science.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by Rob Ellison
Not quite right – it was the psychopathology of ‘climate science’ rather than the politicization.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)
“sometimes exhausts some black fumes”
You mean like Rolling Coal???
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by climatereason
Michael
I do sometimes wonder if Judith might actually move into politics although I don’t know on what tier
tonyb
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)
In 2009 only 6% of scientists identified as Republican according2 a Pew research poll.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/229382/
And now it is getting worse as the conservative vessel National Review has declared war on nerds such as Neil Degrasse Tyson.
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by climatereason
fan
this falls into the ‘horses for energy courses’ category.
those who live in apartments or cant afford it are likely to find it if little use. those who need heating rather than aircon will find the winter sun highly ineffective.
battery technology for storage is important and lets hope it improves so it can store power.
however, this isn’t going to replace fossil fuels except in a few cases.
tonyb
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Comment on Importance of intellectual and political diversity in science by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)
The vast majority of people in the world know that gasoline costs keep going up.
Whatcha gonna do bout it?
Defund climate science?
Ha ha.
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