The rate doubled in five years. At that rate of doubling they could be gone within a century.
Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Jim D
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Comment on Institutionalizing Dissent by rogerknights
The people who have gone into climatology are not a normal sample of seekers-after-truth. They are primarily a biased sample of persons who think they’ve found truth in the environmentalist indictment of mankind’s wasteful / poisonous ways. Climatology is a new field, almost entirely funded privately and publicly by “concerned / alarmed” funders of other environmentalist crusades, and taught by similar acolytes.
The most intense Believers have managed to intimidate or marginalize others and set the tone for the field. It’s easy to do when “hard facts” and clear cause-effect relationships are so difficult to nail down. There’s lots of room for interpretation of finding, or to avoid research topics that are likely to produce contrary evidence.
On top of that, there is an institutional incentive to avoid non-alarmist findings: it would reduce the fame and fortune (funding) for climatology if it were to tell its funders and the public: “Move along, nothing to see here.”
Other fields have attracted biased samples of “scientists” who’ve marginalized dissenters: sociology and psychology, for instance. (Behaviorism and Freudianism were the big offenders in the latter instance.)
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by AK
This looks like crackpot nonsense to me.<blockquote>I have tried to provide some of this information to Dr Curry in an e-mail, because the pictures that can be included are very compelling. </blockquote>Why don't you put in on a blog? I know it's a little difficult to learn to use the interface for any of the major <b>free</b> blog sites, but if you're smart enough to come up with something I would be interested in reading, with or without pictures, you should be smart enough to use that interface.
Same probably goes for anybody else who looks at your comment here. Why are you linking to Facebook rather than a site where your "theories" are better explicated, with <i>" the pictures that can be included"</i>?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Tonyb
Jimd
Gone in a century? You do realise that the melt amount remains trivial and that the two warmest consecutive decades in Greenland were 1930 and 1940?
Tonyb
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Steven Mosher
“And the average of that “rising stair case” is slow enough that killing the Industrial Revolution isn’t necessary for “mitigation”. If it ever was.”
settled? or not?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Steven Mosher
nice web.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by phatboy
The excuse for being unable to detect it at the surface is that it’s hiding away in the deep oceans – yet it’s melting the ice sheets!
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Comment on No bodies by DocMartyn
“Do you feel lucky?”
Er yes. The figs we eat, Ficus carica, are nothing like the wild variety and were first grown at least 10,000 years ago. They have been extensively selected by humans, evolving at an incredible speed, and yet the wasps have been able to keep up.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)
Intraannual is more about weather than climate. Interannual consists of periods that span years which makes it more on a climate change scale than near-term weather forecasts.
Look up “interannual climate variation” in the encyclopaedia and you will see references to ENSO.
Time for the dunce cap, cap. You wear it well.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Jim D
It’s pretty hard to get an ice sheet surface temperature above freezing, so it melts instead. Another form of hidden heat.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)
“Ditto”
It figures the Rush Limbaugh supporters would come out of the woodwork to trash a scientist with the wrong POV.
Google “ditto heads”
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by captdallas2 0.8 +/- 0.2
webster, “Intraannual is more about weather than climate. Interannual consists of periods that span years which makes it more on a climate change scale than near-term weather forecasts.”
repeat after me, weather. multidecadal borders on climate and with the slow rate on ocean heat uptake, multicentury is more likely. For example ECS is nearly useless since it can take so long, but that doesn’t mean that recovery from the LIA can’t still have an influence on today’s climate changes. That should be the next shoe to drop, more evidence of longer term persistence that is also denied by most.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by AK
<blockquote>settled? or not?</blockquote>What <i>"settled"</i>? According to various "authorities", a 2°C rise in "average" temperature is the limit of what is "tolerable" (probably a paraphrase). How long to reach that given the average of that <i>"rising stair case"</i>? How long before improving technology makes <b>cheap, easy, control of the atmospheric pCO2</b> effectively a no-brainer, technologically? (NOT politically, of course.)
My point (assertion, given for argument) is that "solutions" that seriously impact the course of the Industrial Revolution haven't been shown to be necessary, or sufficient, for solving the problem, <b>if the linear assumptions behind that <i>"rising stair case"</i> were valid.</b>
But they aren't, of course. A large number of risks exist that incent reducing atmospheric pCO2, and human emissions of fossil carbon, as quickly as possible without impacting other important considerations.
But at no point did I claim any <i>"settled science"</i>. An assertion put forward for argument isn't the same thing.
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by phatboy
Seriously?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by AK
It’s pretty hard to get an ice sheet surface temperature above freezing, so it melts instead. Another form of hidden heat.
But the air a meter above it could be 5°C higher. Depending on the wind speed. Where are your measurements taken?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Jim D
maybe you have a different theory for how glaciers melt during a cool phase?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Sigurdur
How many areas, and how many degrees have they found so far in regards to the pause. I think at last count it is approx. 10C that they have found. Empirical data isn’t showing a 10C increase in surface temperatures.
What mystery place will they find next?
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by phatboy
This is an ex-parrot!
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Comment on Cause of hiatus found deep in the Atlantic Ocean by Jim D
Sure, land warms, deep ocean warms, ice melts, all during the cool phase. These observed facts go against the grain for some and are hard to take.
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Comment on No bodies by rls
R. Gresty: Ms. Blake didn’t read enough. The link regarding the polar bears involved two meetings with three notable scientists on both sides of the debate. There were also notable commentators providing expert information on polar bears; most striking is that observations of polar bears is difficult and recording an accurate number of bears from year to year is, at this time, not possible.
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