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Yes, you need good data.
Except, where do we find good data for cloud cover?
Is anyone actually bothering to gather such data?
And, if not, why not?
Have we already found the culprit?

Comment on Open thread by Rob Ellison

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‘Climate forcing results in an imbalance in the TOA radiation budget that has direct implications for global climate, but the large natural variability in the Earth’s radiation budget due to fluctuations in atmospheric and ocean dynamics complicates this picture.’ Loeb et al 2012

The physics is quite simple mad, naked Emperor Moshpit. Earth sciences is hard.

I can do to June 2014 at the CERES data products page..

Emitted IR steady enough between 2013 and 2014.

Reflected shortwave decreased.

Short term temperature changes are dominated by large cloud changes associated with large scale changes in ocean and atmospheric circulation.

Comment on Open thread by Rob Ellison

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Too many charts. Longwave flux.

ttps://watertechbyrie.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/toa-longwave.png

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As I said – the instability is in thermohaline circulation initiating ice feedbacks at periods of low NH summer insolation.

You are a proper idjit Doug.

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Comment on Open thread by Faustino

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In terms of policy analysis based on understanding, evidence and good sense, I’d put Steve Postrel at the top of the tree at CE. If we give him a score of 100, I’d struggle to give Stephen Segrest minus 30.


Comment on Open thread by Faustino

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As an Aussie icon might have said in confrontation with Michael Mann, “Call that a hockey stick? THIS is a hockey stick!”

Comment on Open thread by Dave Peters

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One of the twists of fate along the Soft Energy Path, was that that pre-climate Vision was anchored to the idea of minimizing transmission loss inefficiency by decentralizing. Lovins had a predecessor who had learned power economics in developing India. Schumaker was looking at scale issues: “greenfield.” To get from those premises, to Rachel Maddow instructing us: damn the transmission losses, deploy Big Wind in the Dakotas and Giga-grid it anywhere–“We can do it,” requires some rubber logic.

Comment on Open thread by Rob Ellison

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Electrical demand has a couple of daily peaks as well as seasonal demand dependent on climate. It is at least feasible that solar and wind can supplant some of that energy – daytime load, solar for air conditioning loads in summer, wind for heating in winter, heating water anytime opportunistically. All without needing redundant capacity – but the penetration is necessarily limited. It can be modeled using the US EPA model which incorporates wind and solar data. It is probably not rocket science.

Here is a global estimate of the levelised cost of energy. This is the appropriate measure for the scenario above.

There are a dozen technologies that are potentially competitive – under $100/MWh. Solar – either PV or thermal – is not one of the dozen. Most have limited availability – either for physical or logistical reasons.
The major practical sources remain coal, gas and nuclear.

How is this not simple? We do not want doubled energy costs – and I am really uninterested in dubious externalities calcs. Cheap energy is the currency of civilization – hard to put a true price on the benefits.

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Welcome to China! The Great Firewall is mighty!

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None so blind as those who wear the blinkered spectacles
of deep green certainty.

‘Even Germany, formerly a strong “Green’ power proponent
is now finally experiencing a great deal of buyer’s remorse.’

vhttp://papundits.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/green-power-gridlock-why-renewable-energy-is-no-alternative/

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nottawa rafter No the original of this was by Will Rogers who, referring to the Okies in the Dust Bowl days, said that when Okies left for California, those who couldn’t read a map tended to end up in Texas. This raised the IQ of all three states.

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Yep, that was a great documentary, that :)


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