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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by John Bahm

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016192">Wagathon</a>. I suspect there is a reason Hansen called his...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Christos...

At first it was a hypothesis. And it was a wishfull hypothesis. What if there is not a +33°C atmospheric greenhouse warming effect on Earth’s surface? And if there is some – how much it is then?...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016194">John Bahm</a>. In Western academia's 'wonderland' America is...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016195">Christos Vournas</a>. An inconvenient fact for global warming...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016197">Wagathon</a>. When it comes to global warming, humanity is...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Jungletunks

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016192">Wagathon</a>. Bad indeed. Yet America will be good again once...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016185">David Andrews</a>. Dear Grok 3 beta, did Christian Schlüchter...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Joe K

I am currently reading a book on climate from the 1970’s which discusses in detail the early history of dentro reconstuctions and reconciling estimated temps based an tree ring width with the volumnous...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to Joe K. https://winegourd.blogspot.com/2017/10/grape-harvest-dates-and-evidence-for.html

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to B A Bushaw. https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/15/1485/2019/

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016201">Joe K</a>. There’s a common misconception that per capita...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by...

In reply to B A Bushaw. Let’s suggest the period between 950-1250; this period isn’t– “relevant for the understanding of past and present climate” for grapes in Europe? How about between 250BC and...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to B A Bushaw. The relevant period for grapes and climate change is the last 40 years, as shown in the references given. Funny – Joe and JT have no references at all – just personal beliefs...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Christos...

If the 1,5°C global temperature rise since the predindustrial time to be attributed to the CO2 content rise from 280 ppm to 400 ppm (a 120 ppm rise), then the entire 400 ppm the currect CO2 content...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Jungletunks

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016202">B A Bushaw</a>. 40 years is irrelevant within a chaotic...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by...

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016202">B A Bushaw</a>. Jungletrunks may have a good nose for sour...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016202">B A Bushaw</a>. tunks, thanks for your opinion. It carries no...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Joe K

In reply to B A Bushaw. The relevent period is the last 1k years. The 40 year time span you insist on is A) too short of a period B) an intentional use of a cherrypick period. An honest scientist...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016202">B A Bushaw</a>. Melita, thanks for your anecdote. I don't see...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to B A Bushaw. Joe K. A) It is 600 years of data – (B) no cherry-picking. The last 40 are just the ones providing evidence of recent global warming. Those 40 years are not cherry-picked, they...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016207">Christos Vournas</a>. Waiting for the global warming alarmists...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Christos...

In reply to Wagathon. It is, more likely, Earth is warmer than Moon, because Earth has a higher (N*cp) product. – Link: https://www.cristos-vournas.com

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016214">Wagathon</a>. Thinking Earth's massively higher thin, brittle...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Christos...

Also thinking Earth’s thin atmosphere makes Earth warmer than Moon – that thinking is a mistake. – Link: https://www.cristos-vournas.com

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Ireneusz...

This is not the end of severe weather in the US. Arctic fronts will continue to push westward on the US, bringing thunderstorms to the central and eastern US....

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by...

In reply to B A Bushaw. B A: Vines are susceptible to many issues. So many that here it is now illegal unless planted on american root stock. Then again 600 yrs is still a very short period. Intcal 13...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016202">B A Bushaw</a>. Melita, 600 years is a good baseline for the...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016218">Ireneusz Palmowski</a>. SoCal is springing ahead- e.g., Birch...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016221">Wagathon</a>. Yeah, the cherry trees along the tidal basin are...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016221">Wagathon</a>. Western academia's concerns about whether cherry...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016221">Wagathon</a>. I'd recommend Strunk & White.

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by John Bahm

People tend to merge the idea that Earth is warming, with the assumption that the observed warming is from added CO2. The reality is that we are warming, but the cause is very subjective. Warming from...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016225">John Bahm</a>. True, true- the Earthshine project showed that....

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by...

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016221">Wagathon</a>. The flightless bird always sells form over...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to John Bahm. Nope, an increase in surface OLR increases both the amount absorbed in the atmosphere and the amount escaping at the TOA. And that is what is happening. Your logic is defective...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016225">John Bahm</a>. Forget about statisticians, McShane and Wyner...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by burlhenry

In reply to John Bahm. John Bahm: You say that the cause of our warming is very subjective. NO, ALL of our warming is due to decreasing levels of industrial SO2 aerosol pollution in our atmosphere due...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by B A Bushaw

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016221">Wagathon</a>. The intellectual birds prefer clear and concise...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by...

In reply to Wagathon. Wagathon says “Birch trees are leafing out early.” Why?? Here’s a parallel. A collection of potted fig trees (in driveway; east/west oriented. One tree south-facing broke into...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by John Bahm

In reply to burlhenry. Subjective in that the mainstream IPCC position says that the warming is coming from increased greenhouse gases. I agree with you that the observed warming since say 1978 is from...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016225">John Bahm</a>. The fixation of the AGW Idiocracy on CO2 is as...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016235">Wagathon</a>. The discovery of ancient civilizations hidden...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016235">Wagathon</a>. The history of civilization is replete with...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016235">Wagathon</a>. Is Western academia's war against CO2 and pogrom...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

Sacrificing fattened children to bring about climate change is an example of a negative outlook with horrible consequences on the business of living, whether it is done by Incas on the summit of...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Pat Cassen

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016239">Wagathon</a>. How true...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Bill...

Interesting article on a paper examining the distribution of Earth’s gravity and its effect on sea level. https://earthlymission.com/indian-ocean-geoid-low-iogl-largest-gravity-hole-anomaly-solved/...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by cerescokid

In reply to <a href="https://judithcurry.com/2025/02/21/debunking-the-2023-hike-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/#comment-1016241">Bill Fabrizio</a>. Interesting. The effect on SLR is...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Christos...

An unprecedented coincidence !!! It is what the planet surface temperatures comparison method reveals. Let’s see: our Moon’s effective temperature Te = 270,4K and our Moon’s average surface temperature...

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Comment on Debunking the 2023 hike in the Social Cost of Carbon by Wagathon

‘On America’s longest-established carbon trading system, you could buy the lifetime emission cuts of one car for about US$460 [e.g., the cost of planting 46 trees in a carbon offset program]. ‘Yet,...

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