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“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Some things haven’t changed.

‘Who are the republicans listening to?”

Basically all I could say is that they talk like they are reading bad blog posts and comments by sky dragons and really bad skeptics.

Seriously? Were you stumped knowing the answer, or trying to communicate it?

My answer would be this: science isn’t real to the vast majority of politicians (either side). For them, it’s nothing but an institution that can lend “authority” to pronouncements of various utility to various people. Sort of like creationists, and “global warming” advocates.

So who do they listen to? Mostly (IMO) “analysts” who purport to tell them what to say to get votes. Or to get money to publicize what they say to get votes. Politics is about power, and in our current “democracy”, power is about votes.

And anybody with much experience with “analysts” knows that if you really want to hear the truth, listen when what you’re told is different from your preconceptions, and keep track of how what you were told relates to what happened (from an after-the-fact POV), you’ll occasionally actually get the “truth” from the occasional analyst. (“Truth” being as they see it.)

Otherwise all you’ll ever get is what they think you want to hear. Think Bush and the CIA.

Nancy Pelosi, who apparently wouldn’t know a fossil fuel if it bit her fossil A$$, says …

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s message on energy, already evolving in recent weeks, might have to evolve a little more.

On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, the speaker twice seemed to suggest that natural gas – an energy source she favors – is not a fossil fuel.

“I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” she said at another.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/24/pelosi-on-natural-gas-fossil-fuel-or-not/

I’ll have to help you, joshie. Inhofe is in the same boat with about 7 billion other people. He is not losing any sleep worrying about global warming. The Chicken Littles are the fringe minority. That’s why all you have been able to accomplish are token schemes to reduce CO2 by a smidgen. There has been no actual reduction. You people are miserable failures.

Just curious as to who you hang out with, jim2?

Most people I’ve ever met would rather earn more money from working a job than sitting around collecting less money in unemployment. Not all, of course. But perhaps in your millieu, most people would rather collect unemployment?

Somebody has been injecting too much botox into Ms. Pelosi.

==> “You people are miserable failures.”

Heh. “You people.” I love it when Don goes all “you people.”

Must be because of all that political savvy he’s got.

If only Judith would take lessons in political savvy from Don.

Nancy Peolsi says …

#7 “We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it.”
Nancy Pelosi, speech to National Association of Counties, March 9.

http://www.deseretnews.com/top/46/4/We-have-to-pass-the-health-care-bill-so-you-can-find-out-what-is-in-it-Top-10-quotes-of-the.html

Joshua – I think you got the point! You just don’t realize it yet.

Don’t you have any new videos of long-legged K-pop girls, Steven?

Harry just knocks me out!

So … the superior man never speaks?

I will give you another lesson, joshie. In politics it doesn’t hurt to show scorn to a fringe minority, like you people. You don’t count for anything. Little public employee union activists are dirt to me. Am I making myself clear?

god was never a kid AFAIK so models are never evidence

thanks for clearing that up Mosher

thomasfuller2,

errrr…where are the subsidies? Which were I think quite obviously my point.

We knew this back in Detroit, jim.

A superior man keeps his business on the QT, otherwise “affairs cannot be carried on to success.”

It has many practical applications.

Here is a similar one of the last interglacial that includes CO2:

A mercury thermometer is a physical model of temperature. An infrared thermometer is a physical model. An alcohol thermometer is a physical model. A color-changing chemical is a physical model. These can be calibrated and tested against a physical basis i.e. one BTU will raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree F.

Climate models are conceptual not physical.

Jim D,

So, let’s first work on getting the AGW accepted.

I don’t agree with that approach. It’s like banging your head against a wall. You and those who share your beliefs have been truing that approach for 25 years and where’s it got you. It’s involved massive UN climate conferences every year, Kyoto agreement and attempt t set legally binding targets and timetable with penalties for breach of commitments. There is virtually no chance of anything like this succeeding and being sustained for 100 years or whatever it takes, Likewise, there’s virtually no chance of carbon pricing being implemented let alone sustained (globally). And renewable energy cannot achieve much in global GHG emissions reductions. So all the policies the CAGW alarmists have been advocating have failed and will always fail. It’s inevitable.

If you want to succeed in reducing global GHG emissions, follow me and I’ll lead you to a wonderful new world – a place you’ve never been before. :)

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