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Comment on Week in review – science edition by Steven Mosher

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“Are you suggesting tonyb should give up on blog commenting and actually join the fight against ISIS? Interesting.”

Yes. You know how the argument goes. Al gore complains about global warming and then spews tons of carbon. So, people rightly ask him to walk the walk.
Tony B thinks ISIS is the top priority.. well MAN UP Tony B.
enlist, or buy a plane ticket to Syria and do your part for the cause. You dont need to belong to an organized army to do the work you say is most important.

basically he is a hypocrit like gore


Comment on Week in review – science edition by Don Monfort

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Tony, ISIS is not as tough as it seems to the average observer of the news. They dominate large areas by virtue of the absence of effective opposition, but the areas they firmly control are some major cities and towns and the narrow corridors between them. The ill-equipped but highly motivated Kurds have managed to hold them back in major battles and to recover territory.

One U.S. armored division and an air mobile division of ground troops supported by fixed wing and helicopter airstrikes would go over, around and through ISIS systematically isolating and cutting them into little pieces. Months, not years. Of course, the aftermath could be more political ineptness and lack of commitment that allows the same thing to happen again.

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Ken Denison

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Too funny. Asking that our elected officials focus the use of our money on the right priorities is somehow hypocritical to Mosher. Either that or he just likes appearing to be an ass.

Tell you what Mosher, give me my tax dollars back and I’ll spend them on my priorities, OK?

Comment on Week in review – science edition by climatereason

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Mosh

An ORGANISED army is exactly what you need, not random individuals blundering into trouble.

Anyway, what are these bigger issues that can be discussed upon surrender of the small and disorganised sceptic army?

Tonyb

Comment on Week in review – science edition by climatereason

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Don

I agree, a small well organised and well equipped modern army could deal with Isis readily at present.

However, As they take more land the logistics would become much more difficult so action now will prevent bigger problems in future.

Tonyb

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Bad Andrew

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“Skeptics need to surrender”

I think Warmers need to surrender.

Andrew

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Dan Hughes

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It is my understanding that the large scale fluid flows are more or less the direct consequence of fluid motions on a rotating sphere, given the constraints represented by, for the oceans, the land-ocean interface. The topology of the surface of the solids is not resolved by the models and codes, so if the large scale is correctly calculated, that must not be critical.

On the other hand the states of the atmosphere at regional scales is sometimes determined by the mesoscale topology of Earth’s solid surfaces; monsoons, rain shadows, &etc.

It is a given that calculation of the weather, the perturbations in the state of the atmosphere at a given location caused by distributions of energy input and redistribution of the prior content, is beyond reach at the present time.

Further, for decision support only the weather that counts. (And possible changes in the volume occupied by Earth’s oceans.)

The task then is to determine, at mesoscale, the changes in the weather due to changes in the composition of the atmosphere. I think this is an impossibly tough problem.

Getting global scale-metrics roughly right has the same importance as getting the lightening strikes to ground dead on. Interesting, but not very useful.

Climate is what you expect. Because that is determined by where you are on Earth’s surface, the time of the year in Earth’s orbir around the Sun, and a couple of other factors, including in some cases mesoscale topology.

Weather is what you get. And that, “what you get” is what is required to be determined for decision support.

To get a different perspective on calculation of atmospheric flows, use The Google with S. Lovejoy, D. Scherzer and A. F. Tuck, in combinations and separately as author(s), and atmospheric turbulence as keywords.

Clouds are, I think, are described solely by parameterizations; including their vertical motions. Possibly an outcome of the state of the vertical component of the momentum equations.

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Willard

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> An ORGANISED army is exactly what you need, not random individuals blundering into trouble.

My vote goes for Mr. T’s A Team:

Or in that case, the B Team of the A Team.


Comment on Week in review – science edition by jim2

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human1ty1st | June 14, 2015 at 1:43 pm |

The middle east is ripped apart by politics, war and western interference and you blame it all on the weather.

Yep, all that “Western Interference” has given the region billions upon billions of dollars. You might say it’s a love-hate relationship.

Comment on Week in review – science edition by timg56

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Interesting that the organization listed as receiving the most in donations in Suzanne Goldenberg’s article doesn’t have a position on climate change.

More proof that a degree in journalism is evidence of someone going to college to party.

Comment on Has NOAA ‘busted’ the pause in global warming? by Alexander Coulter

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jim2:

“The mean is a SINGLE NUMBER. It is not a DISTRIBUTION!”

A sample mean is itself a single sample from a distribution that has its own characteristics. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Read my blog post, and read some statistics. Here, I got a first link from Google for you.

http://onlinestatbook.com/2/sampling_distributions/samp_dist_mean.html

“Sampling distribution of the mean”—yeah, it actually is a thing.

Comment on Week in review – science edition by timg56

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Mosher,

Not sure about British law, but if an American did what you propose they would be breaking US law.

BTW – you ever volunteer for anything that involved putting your own skin at risk?

Comment on Week in review – science edition by ristvan

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Steven, from Venema’s Renne guest post on the paper:

“In 2000 the United States started building a measurement network to monitor climate change, the so called United States Climate Reference Network (USCRN). These automatic stations have been installed in excellent locations and are expected not to show influences of changes in the direct surroundings for decades to come.”

“To ensure observational differences are the result of network discrepancies, comparisons were only evaluated for station pairs located within 500 meters. The twelve station pairs chosen were reasonably dispersed across the lower 48 states of the US.”

Please scrutinize the paper’s 12 station pairs enumerated in the post figure 2, and point out any non-rural locations in this study. To help you get started:
1. Holly Springs MS. (North MS R&E Center)
2. Kingston 1NW, RI (URI, Plains Road site next to 30 Acre pond. Visual and CRN comparison stations discussion at wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/06/can-adjustments-right-a-wrong/ About as rural as you can get in RI.)
3. Harrison, NE (Agate Fossil Beds National Monument)
4. John Day, Or (John Day Fossil Beds National Monument)
5. Gaylord, Mi (North central Michigan Elk Preserve in a rural recreational area)
6. Murphy, Id (USDA ARS NW Watershed Research Center, Reynolds Creek site)
7. Crossville, TN (U. Tenn Plateau Research Center)
8. Stillwater, Ok (OKU Ag Research Center)
9. Los Cruces, NM (USDA ARS Experimental Range)
10. Dinosaur, CO (Dinosaur National Monument)
11. Arco, ID (Crater of the Moons National Monument)
12. Muleshoe, Tx (Muleshoe National Wildlife Refuge)

Comment on Week in review – science edition by timg56

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Something tells me izen is the proud owner of multiple Rolex watches. Watches he acquired at a great price. The reason he has so many is they all have this annoying problem of stopping after a week or so.

Comment on Week in review – science edition by genghiscunn

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Energy rather than science: Nuclear power expansion: The Australian reports that in the past week the Asahi Shimbun newspaper reported that the Japanese government has figured out it will need 35 working reactors by 2030 as part of its long-term energy strategy. The country has 43 reactors (none of which is working) and three under construction.

China last week switched on a second reactor at the Yangjiang power station in Guangdong province with two more due to be in service by 2019. As of early this year, 23 reactors were under construction in China and 45 more in the advanced planning stages.

And Reuters is reporting that South Korea is dropping plans for four new coal-fired power plants, instead building two more nuclear reactors. And Russia seems to be the preferred builder for at least some of the nine nuclear reactors planned by South Africa.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/uraniums-red-tape-tangle/story-fnciihm9-1227397525629


Comment on Week in review – science edition by Don Monfort

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Steven, you have become increasingly hostile towards tony, recently. What’s up with that?

Comment on Week in review – science edition by timg56

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This should come as no surprise. President Obama assumed office with zero accomplishment to his name. The man has never done anything. And by almost every account he doesn’t like to do anything that involves hard work. Even the AMA (ObamaCare) was the work of others (Rahm Emmanual, Pelosi and Reid).

Comment on Week in review – science edition by Don Monfort

Comment on Has NOAA ‘busted’ the pause in global warming? by Oh, for some real climate science! « DON AITKIN

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[…] Footnote: There are more than a dozen examinations of the Karl paper on the major climate websites, and they are all critical save for the one on RealClimate, which is nonetheless somewhat opaque. A summary can be found on Climate etc, here. […]

Comment on Week in review – science edition by climatereason

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Don

I think I ask him too many ill defined questions.

Tonyb

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