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July 2, 2015, 10:37 pm

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APE – I can only assume you haven’t got around to browsing the V2G blog yet? Or seen the Tesla Energy hype? Li-ion is “flavour of the month”, not lead/acid. Maybe start here and then click lots of links?

http://www.V2G.co.uk/2015/06/is-distributed-energy-storage-on-ofgems-roadmap/

The inverters certainly implement “anti-islanding” here in the UK. Given the way our National Grid currently works some sort of “community microgrid” would be needed for your own static and/or EV batteries to power your neighbours house.

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Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by Mike Flynn

July 2, 2015, 10:41 pm

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nebakhet,

Which temperatures and where? How do you know?

Just saying it over and over doesn’t make an unsubstantiated assertion true. This is a Warmist tactic, which still doesn’t work.

Maybe you should offer your services to Steven Mosher. He believes that strong belief can change history. You and he could no doubt cool temperatures 1000 or 2000 years ago – or warm them, if that would suit you better.

It seems that the Earth has cooled over the last four and a half billion years. If you say this shows that temperatures were lower in the past, I might beg to differ, based purely on physics. Maybe you are right. Have you any facts to support your assertions?

Comment on Heat waves: exacerbated by global warming? by micro6500

July 3, 2015, 5:46 pm

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In this part of the US (NE Ohio) +90% of the homes have basements. Even the 100 year old 1,000 Sq ft ones.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by AK

July 3, 2015, 5:53 pm

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@PA | July 3, 2015 at 8:35 pm | Apples and oranges, I'd say. I was talking about the proportion of <b>climate</b> spending used on models. AFAICT, the numbers you're offering include <b>weather</b> modeling, which along with the actual research using it wouldn't (IMO) count into either side of the fraction. I suppose you're right that the money spent on satellite sensors could be allocated to "climate research". I wouldn't count it, but that's a semantic quibble. I was talking (loosely, I'll admit) about actual research into the <b>climate</b>, its mechanisms and operation. AFAIK virtually all satellite data has other uses, so shouldn't be included. Paleo research would count, but AFAIK every year the proportionate use of GCM's and similar models is increasing, relative to actual core-type data. And so on...

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by AK

July 3, 2015, 5:55 pm

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Terms like “socially enforced consensus” and “narrative competition” to describe the scientific process are inaccurate and accusatory, and not helpful to the scientific discussion.

But they’re very helpful to the discussion of whether the IPCC “science” is really Science at all.

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July 3, 2015, 5:56 pm

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In a nutshell, yep…

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by Jim D

July 3, 2015, 5:58 pm

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The people became interested in wiggles so papers were published on wiggles. This is part of the seepage. The papers were mainly to make the skeptics go away, but unfortunately they did not understand them, so here we are.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by cerescokid

July 3, 2015, 6:00 pm

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Keep digging.

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July 3, 2015, 6:02 pm

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You got it, CAGWunist dogma is just a mixture of garbled enlightenment quasi-thoughts (Christianity without the deity, the 10 – x commandments, x < 9) and new age enviro-fluff. It might be a kind of semi-nihilism, I dunno about such things.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by willard (@nevaudit)

July 3, 2015, 6:04 pm

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> So use of the word “your” when speaking with me, wasn’t an indication of quoting me?

“Your” indicates that something’s yours, Danny. That’s for sure. Your bogus quest was your own idiosyncratic way to rehearse “but Global Cooling.” When I say “but Denier,” do you think I’m quoting anyone?

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> I don’t think Don Don is gonna give you a score on this one either

When he’s not bound by his protection services, Danny, Don Don’s playing ClimateBall. Just like you do. ClimateBall players don’t award points. What makes you think there are points anyway?

As your reward for trying to make it about me while artfully dodging my points, here’s more Lakoff:

Direct causation comes out of a lot of conservatism. This is spelled out in my book “Whose Freedom?,” where it turns out that conservatives tend to think in terms of, in a strict father situation, the kid does something wrong, immediately their job is to spank them or hit them or do something painful to make him regret it and try to avoid doing that thing—it’s direct causation. Similarly you have Republican policies about immediately sending troops and having shock and awe right away, and so on, in all military situations. That is a case of direct causation, and many other conservative proposals involve direct rather than systemic causation, and require not thinking about what the system really requires. That’s happening right now in the ISIS situation, which we can see.

http://www.salon.com/2014/11/22/this_is_why_conservatives_win_george_lakoff_explains_the_importance_of_framing_and_what_democrats_need_to_learn/

Direct causation, Danny. As Big Dave would say, write that down.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by Jim D

July 3, 2015, 6:07 pm

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If you don’t like the IPCC, go to the APS, AMS, AGU, NAS, RS, Google, Exxon, or any other independent groups who have made climate statements. You’re going to say these are all lefty academic types who have something against coal, of course, and that the science can’t be right just because it looks right so far.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by jacksmith4tx

July 3, 2015, 6:08 pm

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How deep do you want your grave?

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July 3, 2015, 6:14 pm

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[…] or any other independent groups who have made climate statements.

What do you mean “independent”? They’re all part of the same society. Much of which has accepted the authority of “scientific bodies” that have been infiltrated and subverted by political operatives who don’t care jack for Science, just for their ideology.

You’re going to say these are all lefty academic types who have something against coal, of course, […]

Well, I suppose they do. So do I. But do they allow their “science” to be perverted for the sake of such ideology? I’d say mostly not, although quite a few probably are engaged in a bit of denial.

But the perps do. Hansen, Trenberth, those types.

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July 3, 2015, 6:30 pm

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Life is the transient response.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by Steven Mosher

July 3, 2015, 6:33 pm

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Ah thanks I think.

We are staring a blog at Berkeley. Thinking about 1/2 technical and the other half educational.

if I were commenting at our blog i would have banned me a long time ago.

so I am think of rules for the blog comments that will outlaw my most outlandish behavior.

I consider most blogging and comments on blog to be theatre…doing something non theatrical is tough.

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Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by Danny Thomas

July 3, 2015, 6:35 pm

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Yawn~!

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July 3, 2015, 6:49 pm

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“Most of the recent “global” warming is above 40N, over land and in winter. ”
I live @N41 W81, this last winter was as cold as I remember, we had a -22F morning.

Comment on A key admission regarding climate memes by thomaswfuller2

July 3, 2015, 6:52 pm

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There is a branch of social science that can go further in analyzing the themes and memes of climate change. Sadly, it’s similar to the branch practiced by Lewandowsky.

Identify the memes. (Planet has a fever, worse than we thought, denier, etc.)
Measure duration. (We don’t hear so much anymore about the planet having a fever.)
Measure intensity. Frequency of use, adoption by mavens (or VSPs and KOLs) Easier now with social media.
Measure translation into policy proposals, regulations and legislation.
Measure spawning and evolution of related memes.
Identify transition points and drivers.

People do that for a living. More frequently, grad students do it for professors trying to make a point.

It can be done well. It rarely is.

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July 3, 2015, 6:53 pm

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JimD, you’re trying to talk about science. Mr. West is trying to talk about scientists.

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July 3, 2015, 6:54 pm

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Jim D | July 3, 2015 at 7:37 pm |
Several papers have shown that coupled models can produce natural variability of a similar magnitude to the pause. The phase of natural internal variability is not predictable in models that were started over a hundred years earlier. This was poorly understood by the skeptics who expected, and perhaps still expect, the pause to be in the CMIP5 models as they simulated this period.

Gee… that’s nice.

When do the models say the pause is going to end?

If the models have been updated to reflect the pause – they should have modeled when it will end.

If the models mispredict the end of the pause – we will know that the models are just an exercise in curve fitting and really don’t have predictive value.