He sounds like you some times. The angry version.
Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Steven Mosher
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Arch Stanton
How many seconds did the collapse of Building 7 take, take your time now.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
@ape: I have no doubt that at many colleges and probably many universities “academics” are echoing what Mr. Gore said and giving tacit approval to it.
Only those academics less qualified in climate science than Mr. Gore.
Whose main qualification is having taken a course from Roger Revelle as a young student.
Those academics that base their evaluations on the data pay no attention to what Mr. Gore says. Unlike you they are able to tell truth from the sort of fiction you keep propagating here.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
And the trick is…?
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Don Monfort
It’s just willyball. It’s not a new dance step that’s sweeping the nation. It’s just silly-willyball. Ignore it and it will go away.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
It is appalling that there is now this poisonous attitude of “being tainted by the dirty hand of industry”.
If the hand of industry is poisonous, as it all too often is, how is it “poisonous” to complain about being poisoned by it?
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
@Faustino: I replied: “Thanks, Laith, though I warn that I do not always see things with clarity and without bias.” To avoid falling into the trap of advocacy requires self-awareness and eternal vigilance.
I share Mike’s handicap. Regarding “self-awareness and eternal vigilance” I would not want to claim the former at more than 50%, and the latter only until when dementia sets in. (I’m 71, younger than Mike I think.)
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by mwgrant
Are you suggesting that we should trust those who are clearly unaware of their biases?
No. I have not made any suggestion who we should trust. I have simply touched on the difficulty of seeing bias in ourselves as well as others. Perhaps one the most troublesome biases is over-confidence.
BTW are you suggesting that there is a way to cull out the ‘clearly unaware’?
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
@mwg: I never inferred from [von Storch’s] remarks that the competence of all scientists is equal.
It would help if von Storch would clarify his remarks in a way that the scientists he’s talking about would find less insulting.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
The two comments immediately above from me differ in that the second avoids the word “i-di-o-t” and thus did not get put into moderation. The first was taken out of moderation without noticing the similarity to the second.
I am so glad I never started my own WordPress blog… ;)
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
@VP: The two comments immediately above
God, I hate WordPress. I meant the two comments at
http://judithcurry.com/2015/09/03/ins-and-outs-of-the-ivory-tower/#comment-729207
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Vaughan Pratt
BTW are you suggesting that there is a way to cull out the ‘clearly unaware’?
Among those who are clearly capable of reasoning logically, no.
But that still allows culling out around 90% based on the quality of reasoning and insight into evaluation of scientific claims that I’ve seen on blogs over the past several years.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by mwgrant
Vaughn,
His remarks were perfectly clear to me on the first read. Indeed I was thinking how succinct the text is. That said, I think you still have a valid point. If Hans or anyone recognizes these problems then that insight by its very nature should influence how they might best raise the issues in their community. Hans’ comment made sense to me because I had already arrived at that point–or if it makes you more comfortable, my biases rooted in my experiences had already made me disposed toward that point of view. Communication is a bear.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Steven Mosher
huh?
how does a simple admission… “ya Im biased” make anyone more or less trustworthy?
are they magic fairy dust words? They are just just words. They tell me nothing about whether a person is trustworthy.
Now I trust you. why? you showed your work and I could check it.
if u said that you had no bias I would just ignore that statement.
its just words
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Comment on Week in review – science edition by Don Monfort
A big brain like you should be able to do better than that, nicky. You know that 3 trillion trees weigh a lot more than 400 billion trees. Don’t be like willy.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by AK
It’s just willyball.
It’s a straw squirrel.
Played, and pointed to, for the benefit of casual visitors, hoping to convince them that the entire debate over climate change, and policy pertaining thereto, is nothing more than:
an highly adversarial and competitive kind of conversation where each party tries to create the impression on the part of an attending audience that it is he who is the most clever and skilful discussant, in a shared attempt to settle upon an appropriate intellectual hierarchy between the participants.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by AK
If the hand of industry is poisonous, […]
It’s not.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by aplanningengineer
VP-what fiction have/am I propagating. Certainly many academics have less climate qualifications than Al Gore. (I’m thinking of a particular Philosophy Professor at a nearbye community college). But they may share and “teach” an understanding more dire and certain than Al Gore. It’s a big country, you seem to state uneqivably that no academics with more qualifications than Al Gore echo Mr. Gore.
I don’t see what you and Joseph are fighting here. Again I’ve made no specific claims to magnitude or degree. Certainly no statements on par with your sweeping one in any case.
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Comment on Ins and outs of the ivory tower by Peter Lang
Vaughan Pratt is unaware of his biasses.
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Comment on Week in review – science edition by Slywolfe
Wordsmiths use ambiguity for a precise purpose.
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