Anthropogenic climate change belief and the incredible waste/bureaucracy associated with it is a factor for sure. It’s a distraction (self-deceit) from real problems.
Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by Edim
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by Bryan
If you were to believe the KT 97 World Energy Budget the Earth does not have a biosphere.
The values given for Solar Radiation intensities with a maximum incident radiation given as 341W/m2 is well into long wavelength Infra red part of the EM spectrum.
This radiation is not energetic enough to produce photosynthesis.
So no photosynthesis, therefor no biosphere, or at least that was what I was taught at school.
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/Trenberth/trenberth.papers/TFK_bams09.pdf
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by Michael
Likewise, what’s the point of denying scientific reality, if you’re not using it to push your political agenda?
Look at all the ‘skeptics’ bewailing the evil scientists, and in the next breath demanding ‘smaller government’ and/or more free-markets.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by climatereason
R Gates
I wrote about previous apparent tipping points from history in a recent article;
“Saint Cyrian was Bishop of Carthage around 250AD.* (see Note 1) He was talking about the huge increase in Rome’s population which had caused wars against Carthage and the building of 500 towns in North Africa to satisfy the eternal city’s ever increasing needs for timber, cereal, and exotic animals for its gladiatorial contests. Here is an account of lack of sustainability and climate change caused by a variety of factors, with the hints of a decline in the warm climate that had sustained Rome now starting to work against them as it intermittently turned cooler
‘The world has grown old and does not remain in its former vigour. It bears witness to its own decline. The rainfall and the suns warmth are both diminishing. The metals are nearly exhausted the husbandman is failing in his fields. Springs which once gushed forth liberally now barely give a trickle of water.’
Around 1560 the Rev Schaller, pastor of Strendal in the Prussian Alps wrote;
“There is no real constant sunshine neither a steady winter nor summer, the earth’s crops and produce do not ripen, are no longer as healthy as they were in bygone years. The fruitfulness of all creatures and of the world as a whole is receding, fields and grounds have tired from bearing fruits and even become impoverished, thereby giving rise to the increase of prices and famine, as is heard in towns and villages from the whining and lamenting among the farmers.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/a-short-anthology-of-changing-climate/
Tonyb
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by lolwot
Ah you’ve added Peter Gleik as part of the hockey team.
You guys speak about honesty out of the sides of your mouths.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by lolwot
And then when there are cuts they moan loudly when skeptic “scientists” (well a teacher) is one who gets cut:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/11/climate-skeptic-instructor-fired-from-oregon-state-university/
Of course in this case it can’t have anything to do with him peddling rubbish. Ohhh no.
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/the-light-of-day/
“Skeptic” acedemics get a free pass by climate deniers: Their work is not scrutinized, climate deniers are fine with their “stars” and “famous skeptics” pushing misinformation.. Their work, lectures and arguments can be complete rubbish and deniers will tolerate it anyway as it’s fit for their agenda.
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Comment on Causes(?) of ocean warming by stefanthedenier
''substantial structural uncertainties remain'' NOP! Nothing is uncertain! Not even the Warmist & Fake's ''smocking guns.
Everything is known!!! Sincere / honest thinking; will tell you what Stefan knows: 1] ''for the last 50y, population increased / economies improved. 2] more and more olive, canola oils end up into the sea from the sewage treatment plants - pork, chicken, beef fat + industrial oils end up in the sea. Those oils + fats spread as an invisible film on the surface of the sea -> prevent evaporation. 3] EVAPORATION IN COOLING PROCESS. 4] less evaporation = less cooling, less evaporation = less clouds (clouds are the sun umbrellas for the sea) less clouds = rain; rain brings coldness from high up and is cooling the ocean. Rain replenishes the seawater with oxygen - many places the water for big part of the year is oxygen deficient; cannot sustain fish - fishermen cop it. WHO IS GUILTY? WHAT ''substantial structural uncertainties remain''?!?!?! Z E R O! ! !
Because of the obsessional ''carbon bashing'' by both camps, the real problems cannot be minimized. It's on record that I have ALL, in details - the fundamentalist from both camps are doing everything to silence me and the truth. Everything is KNOWN; fundamentalist are suffering from ''truth phobia'' Too many ''smoking guns'' Solution.Take the fundamentalist Warmist & Fakes to Guantanamo / the Bay of Pigs - where they belong! Cheers, brothers! At least I'm honest - you guys are naughty! .
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by johanna
When I was growing up, a recurring character in the political cartoons of the day was a scruffy individual carrying a placard that said “the world is coming to an end”. This person was a figure of fun.
Today, he/she is being published in formerly distinguished scientific journals as though their neurotic fantasies are fact. We still laugh at those who say the Rapture will happen on October 22nd next, but if they use the right language and vaguer timelines, some people actually think this is reputable science.
Go figure.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by Beth Cooper
Well.Tony @ 13th June, 5.10am:
I’d sooner refer to historical records like yours and CET instrumental data than tree ring findings and computer hindcast adjusted models.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by hunter
Gary M,
Are you hopeful for a change?
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by hunter
+1
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by hunter
johanna,
You raise some interesting points.
Between reasonable regulation of abortion and the imposition of eugenics, which would you choose?
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by GaryM
I refuse to bandy words with a man from a country that can’t even pronounce “herb” correctly.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by hunter
Kip,
We will be bombarded by stentorian oh-so-seriouis declarations all along the lines of the “science is settled and denialists are scum” until the Rio conference joins the ash heap along with all the other climate conferences.
Then people will point out that the papers were always bogus and making phony claims and false conclusions. But the AGW faithful will be pleased. And the NGO’s can continue their parasitic existance.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by hunter
Why should the parasites who make a good living off of fear be hinest? They have no morals to guide them- only their self-declared crusades.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by GaryM
You betcha! Even if the GOP takes the presidency and both houses of congress, there will still be too many progressive Republicans, including Romney, around for a full conservative agenda. But the thing about “moderates” is that they follow the trend. If there is as big a shift (boy did I catch a typo there before posting) in favor of conservatives as I expect, Romney will govern as a conservative, even though he isn’t one. Kinda like G.W. Bush in his first term.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by steven
Bart, I think it unlikely that the individuals writing the paper had draconian measures in mind to control population growth and it is a leap to assume they did. I suspect something similar to your solution was what they had in mind.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by David L. Hagen
lolwot
See Spencer's 4th order polynomial temperature fit at:
<a href="http://www.drroyspencer.com/2012/06/uah-global-temperature-update-for-may-2012-0-29176c/" / rel="nofollow">UAH Global Temperature Update for May 2012: +0.29°C</a>
That shows a similar oscillation to <a href="http://bit.ly/LyJ9iw" rel="nofollow">Girma's plot</a> which appears similar to the PDO changes shown by Easterbrook. <a href="http://rankexploits.com/musings/2012/roy-announced-uah-june-289c/" / rel="nofollow">Lucia has already shown the 0.2 C/decade IPCC model trends </a> are 2 sigma above reality of 0.138 C/decade for the last 32 years.
In science, reality trumps models.
It will be interesting to see how the lowest solar cycle in the last century will impact global temperatures/climate. Global cooling has already dried out the Sahara from Europe's grain basket to desert.
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by A fan of *MORE* discourse
Let’s test our geophysical knowledge and intuition, folks.
Test Question: If the Earth’s human inhabitants were distributed evenly over the surface of the Earth’s land-area, then the nearest person to you would be about how far away (pick one)?
• 10 meters (talking distance)
• 100 meters (shouting distance)
• 1000 meters (walking distance)
• 10000 meters (driving distance)
Remember, that 
Bonus Test Question: Is the 2012 Arctic ice melt proceeding at a record setting pace?
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Comment on State shift (?) in Earth’s biosphere by Jim2
Keep the BS coming!
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