Comments for Climate Etc.

I have linked to descriptions of the complexities of the soil carbon pools at other times and on this page.

https://judithcurry.com/2017/06/21/national-climate-assessment-and-the-trump-administration/#comment-851537

You assume that carbon inputs – and primarily by plant carbon fixation – balance the removal through cropping and grazing. It is not true – there are a number of other processes in agricultural systems that determine soil carbon pools. And again – the information is in links that I provide. But equally – the internet facilitates research on this or any other topic it seems. Not like the days when years were spent photocopying articles on biogeochemical cycling in libraries.

This link – provided above – provides an excellent introduction by the global leader in the field.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/fes3.96/full

The technical challenges how to display and navigate a tree diagram with say 10,000 nodes, each of which is just a sentence or so? I know of no software that does this, perhaps because no one has tried to do it. It would be great fun.

“The reluctance of the fringes in the Science Wars to come out and fight tends to polarize the apolitical scientific center.”

Not sure what you mean here. Who would you consider to be on the fringes? The ones I can think of seem to fight all the time.

And who would you consider to be in the “apolitical scientific center”? This sounds like lukewarmers to me but you may mean something else.

“On the face of it, elevated CO2 boosting the foliage in dry country is good news and could assist forestry and agriculture in such areas; however there will be secondary effects that are likely to influence water availability, the carbon cycle, fire regimes and biodiversity, for example,” Dr Donohue said.
https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

There are clearly unknown risks that cant’s rationally be dismissed out of hand. Not knowing the effects of changes we are causing in chaotic Earth systems is not an unmitigated good.

The scientific center ought to serve not faction, but the naton by, advancing the science that underpins realistic national policy.

An aging fleet of nuclear plants that should never have been built in the first place competing against natural gas? Low gas prices cannot last very long in the scheme of things.

“To provide [electricity] in today’s world, an ‘advanced reactor’ must improve over existing reactors in the following 4-core objectives. It must produce significantly less costly, cost-competitive clean electricity, be safer, produce significantly less waste and reduce proliferation risk. It is not sufficient to excel at one without regard to the others.” Dr. Christina Back, Vice President, Nuclear Technologies and Materials for General Atomics, May 2016 testimony before the US Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing on the status of advanced nuclear technologies.

But the first of the modular reactors – within a decade – seems likely to be NuScale – which is a smaller and simpler light water reactor.

http://www.nuscalepower.com/why-smr

I think EM2 is a much better idea. And it is already leading to development of accident tolerant fuels – that are more generally applicable in different designs.

http://www.ga.com/energy-multiplier-module

The trouble is that Pat’s cohort less represents the methodology of a JASON-style Red Team, than the bombast of Lewis Carrol’s Red Queen:

“Science means what I say it means, neither more or less.”

The whole point of such an exercise is not to pretend to know the answer beforehand– thou shalt not covet thine own hypothesis.

Oh Mossshhher the once Great and Powerful, your descent into madness is quite sad.

If you were a scientist you would understand that what your team claims is science is not and those your team holds out as scientists are not worthy of the name.

The alarmist team is greatly outnumbered when it comes to scientists.

What science is that Russell? Be as specific as you can.

If Don can get Heartland to hold its next palaver in a blimp parked at the equator just under the tropoause, he may be able to point to a flying squirrel for a change. The problem of the turbulence and vertical instability of the ITC occuring on a scale too small for GCM’s to resolve has been freely acknowledged by modelers since 43 was in office. As suely as Trump reigns, Bayes rules.

B.S., Jim D. All those places experienced heat waves in the past. Show me proof that they expect worse in the future. Anyway, thank weather patterns, not climate, for heat waves, droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, …..