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Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Wagathon

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Withal and one federal climatists out of billions on the planet and literally at the tail of human evolution steps forward and proclaims the current global temperature is ideal. Thank gawd for Western schoolteachers or who knows what would become of the world and all of the polar bears in the wild (not those that rained down on NY City streets from man’s inhumanity to bear and all other species on Earth).


Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Punksta

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So
- add some CO2, temp goes up.
- add some more CO2, temp goes down.

Eh? How does that work exactly?

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Matthew R Marler

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Bob Droege: Yeah, the amount has doubled, can’t you guys read a simple chart.
You guys do know about an anomaly, right, can’t have an argument with those who don’t understand the concept, but I see some of you have been sleeping, for almost their entire lifetimes.

OK. So what you meant to write was that the “anomaly” had doubled, not that the “ocean heat content” had doubled. A simple mistake of the sort that most of us make from time to time.

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Punksta

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What about the increased <i>absorption </i>of longwave ?

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Pekka Pirilä

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The formulation “the ocean heat content has doubled” is terrible and should never be used. I complained about that to R.Gates (I think it was him) and I complain again.

The sentence is true only when the absolute temperature roughly doubles. There’s no significant origin at the heat content at 1960. Doubling is a very bad term even in sentence that “the anomaly has doubled” unless there is a real, not only convention based, origin for the value of the anomaly.

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Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by JCH

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Pekka – how would you describe the change in the ocean heat content anomaly in that graph?

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Nabil Swedan

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Quite a bit of imagination in the paper.


Comment on Multidecadal climate to within a millikelvin by Don Monfort

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Pratt,

You need an exit strategy. This has gone on far too long. You are really looking foolish and dishonest. Your ducking, dodging, and lame attempts at rope-a-doping your friend Greg aren’t working for you. Why don’t you just declare that Greg is a tool of the oil industry, and be done with him?

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by pokerguy

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Yes Max, I take your point. Big “if” however.

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Pekka Pirilä

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With anomalies based on a period decided by convention one should stick to absolute values. With OHC the problem is that the absolute values tell nothing to most (is 10^22 J a lot?)

Another possibility is to select two reference periods and compare the increases, but again, who knows, what is significant. That tells, however, about change in the rate of accumulation. Doing that one should avoid cherry picking done easily with these values.

To reach some understanding it would be necessary to convert the absolute numbers to something comparable to other phenomena of interest. The change in average temperature of ocean water (0-700m or 0-2000m) is not particularly good although certainly informative for some purposes. Most informative might be telling the average heat flux in W/m^2 over the period as denizens are likely to have some experience on such numbers and some ability to compare the value to these other numbers.

Comment on Multidecadal climate to within a millikelvin by Don Monfort

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Pratt,

You should have followed the sage advice of John S. and sought some help:

“As long as you cling to the premise that closely fitting a sharply low-passed version of HADCRUT3 (which fails many ex-ante validation tests as a geophysical signal) reveals something highly meaningful about the real world, you’ll remain unreachable. Even a white-noise series upon sufficient low-passing will exhibit quasi-sinusoidal behavior, which can be closely fit at the cardinal points over short stretches by FFT harmonics. Perhaps Emanuel Parzen, who used to teach at Stanford, can take the time to acquaint you with the intricacies of detection of real-world signals characterized by a continuous spectrum and with the pitfalls of ascribing significance to the lowest-order harmonics of short records.”

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by Leaked AR5 SOD Challenges IPCC Scientists to Stop Cherry-Picking Data « GeoEngineering Exposed

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Comment on 20th century mean global sea level rise by timg56

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Bob,

Hope you make it. I know I’d love to see what the world looks like in 50 – 100 years.

That’s assuming we make it through today.


Comment on 20th century mean global sea level rise by timg56

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Nice, tony.

I would concur the Mr WEB is an award winner.

Comment on Climate sensitivity in the AR5 SOD by timg56

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josh,

let’s be a bit more accurate – nowhere did I say who did what first. Without that your comment has no bearing or merit. All I say is that you can find similar behavior on both sides. Hell, I didn’t even try to claim that such behavior on one side justifies it on the other. Bottom line Josh is I basically said the exact opposite of what you claim. My point is “quit crying to mommy, you both are guilty”.

VTG,

Whatever.

Comment on 20th century mean global sea level rise by WebHubTelescope

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I called it anecdotal. That’s why I used the word, anecdote. Lot like the crap that you sell, pushing Charles Dickens because he happened to have a cold winter during his childhood.

So why exactly aren’t you looking at ice-out dates over the years?

There is no subjectivity to the observations, it has a built-in filter, and it provides good spatial statistics.

Are you that afraid to look at ice-out dates because you don’t like what it will tell you?

Btw, possums ate stupid little critters that have a life expectancy of a few years. If they can survive a Minnesota winter and reproduce in numbers, the naturalist field guides will need to change.

Comment on 20th century mean global sea level rise by The Skeptical Warmist

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Keith AB said:

“If the climate is in fact changing it is not having an effect on the weather.”
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1. You don’t know this.
2. Climate is always changing and always having an effect on the weather.
3. The thing that is pertinent is whether humans are altering the climate, how and how much our activities will alter it, and what we might do about it or adapt to it.

Comment on 20th century mean global sea level rise by jeez

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