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Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by WebHubTelescope (@WHUT)

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So according to Manacker, Greenpeace has done some sort of historical revisionism and removed Patrick Moore from its own record of founding:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/history/the-founders/


In 1970, the Don’t Make A Wave Committee was established; its sole objective was to stop a second nuclear weapons test at Amchitka Island in the Aleutians.

The committee’s founders were Dorothy and Irving Stowe, Marie and Jim Bohlen, Ben and Dorothy Metcalfe, and Bob Hunter. Its first directors were Stowe, Bohlen, and a student named Paul Cote.

Canadian ecologist Bill Darnell came up with the dynamic combination of words to bind together the group’s concern for the planet and opposition to nuclear arms. In the words of Bob Hunter, “Somebody flashed two fingers as we were leaving the church basement and said “Peace!” Bill said “Let’s make it a Green Peace. And we all went Ommmmmmmm.” Jim Bohlen’s son Paul, having trouble making the two words fit on a button, linked them together into the committee’s new name: Greenpeace.

Marie Bohlen was the first to suggest taking a ship up to Amchtka to oppose the US plans. The group organised a boat, the Phyllis Cormack, and set sail to Amchitka to “bear witness” (a Quaker tradition of silent protest) to the nuclear test. On board were:
• Captain John Cormack, the boat’s owner
• Jim Bohlen, Greenpeace
• Bill Darnell, Greenpeace
• Dr Lyle Thurston, medical practitioner
• Dave Birmingham, engineer
• Terry Simmons, cultural geographer
• Richard Fineberg, political science teacher
• Robert Hunter, journalist
• Ben Metcalfe, journalist
• Bob Cummings, journalist
• Bob Keziere, photographer

Stowe, who suffered from sea-sickness, stayed on shore to coordinate political pressure. Cote stayed behind too, because he was about to represent Canada in an Olympic sailing race.

Bob Hunter would take the lessons of that first voyage forward and improvise upon them to the point that he, more than anyone else, invented Greenpeace’s brand of individual activism.

The Amchitka voyage established the group’s name in Canada. Greenpeace’s next journey spread their reputation across the world.

In 1972, David McTaggart answered an ad placed in a New Zealand newspaper by Ben Metcalfe, calling for a ship to go to Morouroa Atoll to protest nuclear weapons testing there. McTaggart chose the following crew:
• Nigel Ingram, ex-Royal Navy
• Roger Haddleton, ex-Royal Navy
• Grant Davidson, a good cook

Their ship was rammed, and on his return the next year McTaggart was beaten by French commandos to the point where he lost vision in one eye. An epic battle played out in media around the world as a tiny ship challenged one of the greatest military forces on Earth.

For the next two decades, McTaggart would vie with the French government over nuclear weapons testing at sea and in the courts, and rise to the leadership of Greenpeace worldwide.

At a point when separatist Greenpeace national and regional entities were taking legal action against one another, the successful businessman and athlete stepped in and settled the arguments by founding Greenpeace International.

No Patrick Moore? WHUT’s up wid dat? Maybe WUWT should get on the case?


Comment on Berkeley Earth Global by ehak

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Re Barrow:

The UHI in Barrow in winter:

“There was a strong positive relation between monthly UHI magnitude and natural gas production/use.”

That is: more UHI when cold. Warming will give less UHI-effect. As Alaska has been getting warmer that means lessening of winter-UHI in Barrow. That is an negative bias if the termometer readings are affected. It wil produce less warming in the termomoter-readings than outside this UHI-area of Barrow.

Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by thisisnotgoodtogo

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Michael, The quote use by Michael Mann is really a dishonest ploy.
He portrays it as if it is about him, but it’s not. It does nothing at all to exonerate him.
He used a chopped-off version of the quote to pretend that it referred to him.

End of that malarkey, clownish troll!

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by omanuel

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Copies of the above message were sent separately to NAS and RS, with carbon copies to the Congressional Space Science and Technology Committee.

NAS and RS are now as dangerous as cornered animals.

Diplomatic skill is desperately needed to minimize the damage, as society is restored to sanity (contact with reality) and integrity is restored to institutions that NAS and RS supervised.

Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by thisisnotgoodtogo

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It’s better than a dishonest ploy.

It’s sadly funny.

Comment on Week in review by RichardLH

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Jim D | February 28, 2014 at 6:52 am |

“The ocean is more undersampled than the land”

Satellites sample both I the same resolution!

Comment on Week in review by RichardLH

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WHT: Stop frothing at the mouth. I know what the error range and distribution is and how it is derived. I brought it up in the first place.

Until, your nice little potato peeler (aka CSALT) can explain how AMO and POD can be driven by CO2 you might as well keep quiet.

http://climatedatablog.wordpress.com/pdo/
http://climatedatablog.wordpress.com/amo/

and how is it that CET (those pesky UK temperatures) don’t fit your model either?

http://climatedatablog.wordpress.com/cet/

As to who is more accurate, satellite or thermometer, geographical coverage should answer that one best :-)

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by HR

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I disagree to some extent with you Steve. From the weekly lab meeting through to publications and conferences there is always competing ideas about how to interpret results and about meaning in data. Agreed that ultimately that will be resolved through experimentation not debate but challenging things with competing ideas is a spur to greater understanding.


Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by Katisha

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(And fraud by Mann was conclusively established long ago in Climategate btw. That’s consensus ‘science’ for you.)

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by Paul Vaughan

Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by manacker

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David Springer

Mosh bagging on Cripwell?

I’d see this more as the classic debate between a rationally skeptical empiricist (Cripwell) and a somewhat less skeptical believer in the virtual world of computer models (Mosh).

The only common ground they both share is intelligence and knowledge of the subject matter.

For Cripwell the only real evidence is empirical data, based on actual physical measurements or reproducible experimentation (the Feynman approach), while Mosh has more faith in model outputs based largely on physical laws and theoretical considerations (the IPCC approach).

When it comes to our climate, neither side can win this debate by convincing the other.

Probably more frustrating for Mosh than for Cripwell.

Just my impression, David.

Max

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by Beth Cooper

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United nay-shuns! Makes me think
of the movie, ‘Name of the Rose,’
the rustling of cardinals’ silk
in the corridors of power,
the far-flung authority
and especially indulgences
penned by industrious scribes,
inside the stone-walled,
(glass-walled) hive,
while on the slopes outside,
peasants scrabble
fer scraps from
the priests’ table, say,
‘Let – them – eat – crickets.’
Er, would yer mind passing the
caviar?

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by RichardLH

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“Does the recent slowdown of warming mean that climate change is no longer happening?”

The answer given to that can only possibly be true if the climate has never shown such a pause/reversal before.

AMO
http://climatedatablog.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/esrl-reconstructed-monthly-nao-rnao-monthly-anomalies.png

PDO
pdo-reconstruction-1470-1998-shen-2006-with-gaussian-low-pass-30-and-75-year-filters-and-hadcrut-overlay

and a collection of Thermometer records
hadcrut-giss-rss-and-uah-global-annual-anomalies-aligned-1979-2013-with-gaussian-low-pass-and-savitzky-golay-15-year-filters1

says otherwise.

There is nothing unusual about what we are seeing. Climate factors and temperatures have risen and fallen in a surprisingly regular sequence since 1400-1500.

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by RichardLH

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Or an observation of what the data has shown to have happened. mustn’t forget the data! Not everything is in the models.

And trends can be curves as well as straight lines. In fact in nature that is more likely rather than less.

Comment on NAS/RS Report on Climate Change: Evidence and Causes by RichardLH


Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by Don Monfort

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You are in an embarrassing rut again, joshie. Cut your losses.

Comment on Berkeley Earth Global by RichardLH

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Steve: So please tell me why the trend in BEST is higher than the trend in all other temperature sources.

That state of affairs cannot be true (assuming that all of the sources are attempting to refer to the same underlying facts anyway).

Comment on Blog commenting etiquette by Baby Games

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when you celebrate the shower party then you can play the old games because the old people remembers his own time that they play the different games in shower party. when the old people looking these and they become so emotional and they come to participate in the games when the old people play the games then they are looking very funny and make the people very laugher. so it become the party very funny and entertain able.

Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by David Springer

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Let me reply in defense of whut.

But Sea salt! Conservation! SOI! Stuff like that! Ha. Foolish denier. He have solved the climate.

Comment on Steyn et al. versus Mann by David Springer

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You thought he had a little class. I thought he might’ve died and gone to that great tumbler in the sky.

Looks like we’ve both been disappointed.

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