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Rob Ellison, 3-4 C per doubling for land stations in the last 30 years too, don’t forget. This is not tropospheric satellite-derived stuff, but thermometer temperatures where people actually live and grow things, which after all is what matters when you think about it.


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The mean daily temperature cycle is a boundary value problem. The mean seasonal temperature cycle is a boundary value problem. The +33C discrepancy is a boundary value problem. Face it, your lack of abstract math skills continues to make you appear the klown you are.

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Comment on Open thread by curryja

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Bart, thanks for highlighting this, I have it flagged to incorporate in a future post

Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by philjourdan

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It was actually pleasant not to have to skip over his diatribes.

Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by philjourdan

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Think about telling a bishop there is no god – then you have his dilemma.

Comment on Open thread by aaron

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Yes, VMT is a good indication of what the “real, real” economy is doing.

Interestingly, around 2005 if noticed that my commute seemed to be getting longer and fuel economy went down. A couple years of that and I started looking at the gasoline consumption and VMT data. I noticed a decline in VMT/gasoline consumptions at the end of 2004 to the recession at the end of 2007. Unfortunatley I don’t know whether the trend was real. It disappeared after a periodic re-analysis of VMT.

I have a couple hypothesese, 1) Bad information led drivers to responded poorly to rising gas prices. Slow acceleration is both less mechanically efficient and increases congestion. 2) increased cell phone use caused congestion.

The recession, of course, cleared the roads.

Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by thisisnotgoodtogo

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I get the impression that support for Piltdown has dropped within this year.
Anyone else sense that?


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Comment on Open thread by aaron

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<a href="http://cumulativemodel.blogspot.com/2010/05/highway-data-revised.html" rel="nofollow">Traffic data revised</a> <a href="http://cumulativemodel.blogspot.com/2008/06/high-gas-prices-are-causing-high-gas.html" rel="nofollow">High Gas Prices are Causing High Gas Prices</a> Popular Mechanics, <a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/fuel-economy/6-driving-tactics-to-save-gas-this-weekend" rel="nofollow">smooth, quick acceleration if more effecient than slow acceleration</a>

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I have a couple hypothesese, 1) Bad information led drivers to responded poorly to rising gas prices. Slow acceleration is both less mechanically efficient and increases congestion. 2) increased cell phone use caused congestion.

How old are you?

Anyone, is this the most ridiculous gibberish that you have ever seen?

Comment on Open thread by AK

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This accords with my impression of the opinions of the scientific community. It’s important to remember that most scientists working in a field accept the current paradigm. The numbers and agreement reported here seem to me in good accord with similar numbers for other paradigms under challenge, such as pre-continental drift ca. 1960, innate deep structure in language (N.B. I regard the “blank slate” challenge to this paradigm as baseless), the existence of a dark age separating the Late Bronze age in the Eastern Mediterranean from the Early Iron Age, and the notion that the common ancestor of humans, chimpanzees/bonobos, and gorillas was basically “built like a chimp”.

The most important challenge to the current “climate paradigm” involves the characteristics of hyper-complex non-linear systems, as studied in Chaos Theory over the last couple decades. I find it disappointing that the survey respondents weren’t given a practical test on the implications of that recent research, as I suspect there would have been a strong correlation between skepticism for the current paradigm and that understanding.

If they weren’t?

Bert?

Anybody?

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Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by AK

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<blockquote>A “diploma” from there [ITT VoTech of Tulsa] is more prestigious than a Nobel prize certificate.</blockquote>Certainly than the Nobel <i>"Peace"</i> prize.

Comment on Open thread by Peter Davies

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Surveys of this kind rarely get anything much to go on with because the nature of the questions usually presupposes that AGW is a reality and the academics usually toe the party line. I call it the Lewandowski effect.


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Comment on Open thread by aaron

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Emotionally, about twice as old as you.

totally clueless. The scarcity of oil and the ensuing price shocks are the reasons for the recessions. I really don’t care about your personal anecdotes

Who are you talking to?

Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by Michael

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The degree to which that may be sensed is likely proportional to the degree of confirmation bias of the ‘sensee’.

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Comment on Mann vs Steyn et al. discussion thread by Daniel

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There is a deep cultural divide here that can be separated into two camps and Conservative/Liberal, Right Wing/Left Wing doesn’t work nearly as well as a division along the lines of those who believe in and support the values of the Enlightenment, of individual freedom, of messy markets and voluntary associations, who prefer a civic society to a governmental society as opposed to those that value the Leviathan State, the strong man leader, the authoritarian, top down, centralized command and control everything where all one has to do is obey. No worries, no scary freedom, no messy change to adapt to, no choices to worry over, no existential angst but a world where the leader smiles and all is well.
The first impulse, the first set of values leads to prosperity, freedom, creativity, free markets and that great hobgoblin of the 20th century that has followed us into the 21st: Inequality. But inequality of outcome is guaranteed in a free society and equality of outcome can only be achieved in a police state where all are equally miserable. It’s difficult for me to understand the power of envy but it apparently is pretty powerful as a determinant in world view and surely seems to be the driving force behind much totalitarianism. The problem is that convincing people more people will make it higher up the ladder under freedom than will ever under an authoritarian regime. Sometimes people are so envious they can’t listen to reason. But it’s the authoritarians, who by market manipulation, rules and regulations have rigged the game in favor of those who have arrived and against those who are still trying to get there. That is a design for disaster and war.

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