curryja | November 6, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
Willis, see this link: http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html
Everything Karl was talking about in his talk was really related to NOAA climate services
Nope. I’m not buying that at all. I want a definition of “climate services”, not Tom Karl’s claim that a forecast three months out for this winter’s weather is a “climate service”. It’s not, that’s a medium-range forecast.
That’s weather, Judith. Climate in general is defined as the average of the weather over some sufficiently long period of time … and that’s not this winter’s weather.
Now, I’m sure that Tom Karl would love to have “climate services” become a term of art, as if there were actually some such “climate service” which is more than what used to be called a “long-range weather forecast”.
But as near as I can tell, NOAA doesn’t offer any “climate services”. What NOAA is providing is WEATHER SERVICES. I don’t mind them doing that. I do mind them flat-out lying about what it is that they are doing.
In short, Judith … what do YOU mean when you use the term?
Please give us YOUR clear, unambiguous, bright-line definition that distinguishes climate services from a guess at this winter’s weather … because according to your link, what Tom Karl is flogging is just a PR stunt, and I assume that you know that.
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