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Comment on Week in review by climatereason

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Below are hemispheric and global averages from CRU

Looks like this might be the warmest year in the short reliable record, but interestingly the pause or decline continues.

tonyb


Comment on Week in review by JCH

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GISS is public. People have gone through it thoroughly.

Comment on Week in review by PA

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Given that 2014 is very near going to be the warmest year on record

http://realityversiontwopointzero.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/8f188-6a010536b58035970c015433ac485d970c-pi.png?w=779&h=734

Well .. the lower troposphere temperatures (RSS/UAH) don’t show that. The raw temperatures don’t show that. Only temperatures given the milk treatment (homogenization and pasteurization) show that.

Further we are still below MWP sea levels about 6 inches from what I can tell.

Since sea level is mostly steric (thermal) that would mean we aren’t as warm as the MWP and that current sea levels are in the natural range of variation. So according to sea level we aren’t at record levels yet.

What is interesting is NASA is trying to increase the solar variation in its TSI reconstructions. Without more variation you need a larger solar effect multiplier.

Comment on Week in review by pokerguy (aka al neipris)

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“What is the optimum CO2 level and do we dial it up or down to counter other forcings as needed? In essence , can we keep our planet always in a optimum state if geoengineering advances to that point?”

You guys have no clue how scary you are.

Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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The warmth of 2014 brings about considerable hand wringing among the pseudoscientific crowd, as it has not been an official El Niño even. But this warmth during an ENSO neutral period is right in line with the warmth we had during the last La Niña period with it being the warmest La Niña on record. All this is very much in keeping with the general accumulation of energy in the system, and putting the “hiatus” in proper context.

Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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PA,

Seems you are going to great lengths to explain away some very simple facts– the system is accumulating energy and this year is going to be at or near the warmest year in the warmest decade on record. The only reasonable external forcing to explain all this is the steady increase in GH gases.

Comment on Week in review by ceresco kid

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tony

After reading hysterical headlines in an NBC article of “Boiling 2014″ I dug into the details for the record breaking October and it was hotter than October 1998 and October 2010 by .04 C degrees with a margin of error of .11 C. So in 16 years it is .04 degrees C warmer.

I wonder how many gyrations they had to use just to make sure it was not .05 C cooler than it was. Of course then NBC would not have had their headline.

Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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Tony,

We are certainly not seeing a decline in temperatures, so please show some self respect and stay away from this pseudoscientific jargon. You cannot have the warmest decade capped by the warmest year on record and talk about declining temperature. Really, I give you more credit than that, but perhaps that is misplaced.


Comment on Week in review by jim2

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JCH – the sat calcs are published in peer reviewed papers. I don’t know if you count that as public or not, but the methods are available to those with money for subscriptions – meaning available to scientists.

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Comment on Week in review by jim2

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Gates says “Ignore the man behind the curtain.”

Comment on Can cows help save the planet? by Danny Thomas

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Rob Ellison,

Can you tell me of a source for “the new theory”?
From your earlier post.
“The theory of abrupt climate change is the most modern – and powerful – in climate science and has profound implications for the evolution of climate this century and beyond. Climate is pushed past a threshold. The climate response is internally generated – with changes in cloud, ice, dust and biology – and proceeds at a pace determined by the system itself. The old theory of climate suggests that warming is inevitable. The new theory suggests that global warming is not guaranteed and that climate surprises are inevitable.”

Thanks!

Comment on Week in review by PA

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It is nice to see some green pro-environment engineers join the “lying Koch funded skeptics” in recognizing the problems with current renewable energy technology.

Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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“jim2 | November 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm |
Gates says “Ignore the man behind the curtain.”
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Pseudoscience always needs to see vast conspiracies everywhere when the data does not support their world view. SOP.

Comment on Week in review by climatereason

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Rgates

Excuse me, but please look at the CRU graph I posted. What are they showing? They are not my figures.

Are you saying CRU and the MET Office are pseudoscientific? Some here might agree. I coudn’t possibly comment. Apology required.

tonyb


Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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Tony, the get to “declining temperatures” you have to carefully define a beginning and ending point and use a specific averaging technique that does not pass the honesty test– specifically you need to use the 1998 El Niño year. 2010, and now very likely 2014 will be the warmest years out of the warmest average decade out of the warmest average 20 year period on record. How, in any way can you suggest that we are cooling?

Comment on Week in review by Wagathon

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The Left is dedicated to Gruber-think in betting the public is too stupid to both walk and chew gum. The Left believes us folks cannot be for fighting pollution while at the same time have a clear understanding that AGW theory is nothing more than a political tool that Leftists Climate Change propagandists use to take over the American economy and grow government at the expense of wealth-creating free enterprise in particular and in general, at the expense of Americanism, which is a socio-political system based on respect for individual liberty.

Comment on Week in review by R. Gates

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Science says: “2014 could very likely become the warmest year on instrument record.”

Pseudoscience says: “The globe is cooling, and those who say it is not are fudging the numbers…so there!”

Comment on Week in review by omanuel

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Thanks, Girma, for the reminder of the Sun’s influence on Earth’s climate.

Comment on Week in review by JustinWonder

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I just love the “Week in Review” – it’s a magazine within a blog. We get tossed intellectual bones over which we can duke it out! We have reading material for a week! Thanks Judith!

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